Intrinsic said:
Remakes and remasters are very different things. Its why you see remakes of games from the PS2/PS1 era but instead remasters of games from the PS3. It will make zer financial sense makin remasters or remakes of PS4 games the PS5 and selling them. Especially when their direct rival is offering the same service free. Sony downplayed BC this gen like any good PR team would d because they just couldnt get the PS4 to run PS3 games. That is not gin to be the case going from PS4 to PS5. As they are both X86 platforms. Native BC is pretty much a given based on that alone and based on the fact that its something MS will obviously d and sony simply cannot be selling something their rival offers for free. This doesn't stop devs from still supporting their PS4 games. And there are ways to do that. A dev can offer a 4k upgrade DLC and sell that for $10 for people that already have the game and want that while also main a greatest hits version of the game with the DLC built in and sell that full game at a reduced price for those wanting to get it for the first time. Get this though...... sony isnt in a bubble. There is MS. And we know they will do native BC. This has nothing to do with remakes. Those will still come and they are nothing compared to remasters. And then there is precedent..... the PS4 is the only playstation console to be released without any BC support whatsoever. So if anything' there is more historical backing for native BC than not. |
I know remake and remasters are different. GoW 3 and TLOU were remasters, very fast and low cost that generated much more money than people would be buying the older game to play improved on free BC.
If they can sell 20+% of their consoles being Pro with even double dips when most games don't even get enhanced version, and when they get it is less than remaster would be, then why do you think it wouldn't give profit to sell "remaster" of the PS4 games.
Sony had no need to even talk about BC, and they made the decision to remove BC for everything on PS4 to have you rebuy, so they knew the expected impact both in opinion and bottomline from their experience on the other 3 gens, and it did payout. So what you and others have for "evidence" is more wishful thinking than hard evidence that would make it certain and proved that BC on PS5 is a thing even when the console haven't even leaked besides obnoxious rumors.
If you are selling it then it isn't free BC. Plus MS were doing XBL charged with only MP, put netflix behind paywall and even free games need XBL. Some of those they kept even when Sony didn't had it. If all consoles offered the same then you wouldn't need both in the market. Sony may follow suit because they think MS will do? Sure, but that isn't certain to any level.
twintail said:
Crossplay between PS4/ X1 barely has any big game/ publisher support. In fact, there are barely any games at all. So of course there would be no real impact in this department. So the point still stands, offering PSN PS4 support will prevent the possibility of users jumping from PS4 to the next XB. Yeah, about as silly as ppl wanting their digital libraries to exist perpetually like every other online service in existence. You constantly make these singular points looking at a certain aspect without even contemplating the wider context. PS3 was incredibly overpriced and it suffered for a few years before that could actually be corrected, BC or not. PS4 came out after a very long previous gen, was priced better than the competition, and had an unveiling that made it the anti-PS3. Shuhei even commented about a year after launch that the sales were surprising and that even non-PS3 owners were buying a PS4. Without anything to keep 360 users tied to the Xbox experience, it was easy for users to move over to new hardware. Well I didn't ask for evidence to that but fair enough. It could be true. Either way, the PS4 BC we are talking about is not the same as the PS3 BC. Publishers weren't seeing a large sum of their profits from digital on PS3 like they do not on PS4. Live service games hadn't really taken off on PS3 like they have on PS4. The situation is not the same, the angle is not the same. Sony wasn't making the bulk of their profit off digital sales or services on the PS3. The situations are different. So some publishers have released a few games each? And I am not seeing a lot of sales giants in that list you provided. Nonetheless, I see no problems with remasters continuing. Them being healthy doesn't detract from continued engagement with existing consumers going forward. It is just an alternate product. Anyhow, Sony has been reporting that their network and game services is their most profitable department for a few quarters now. The new PS head is a networks guy. They aren't going to take the risk that comes with resetting their network/ service offerings. They are making so much money off it on PS4 that continuing it without any roadblocks is only the most natural business decision to be made here. And the reality is that announcing as such secures their position next gen. But if you think Sony is going to risk resetting their network offerings for existing consumers based on outdated contexts, then you are free to do so. Maybe you will ultimately be right. I doubt it though. But we will see. |
How wasn't anything tying Xbox users to the Xbox environment when they had the XBL and achievements there plus the friendlist and all? You are just trying to make BC more important and relevant than it is even if historical data shows it wasn't much used in any console.
They won't reset their network because of lack of BC. And resetting gens haven't been a problem for they to grow on PS2 against PS1 and PS4 against PS3. Plus resetting had no bearing in PS3, they had BC and that didn't help at all.
There are many, many, many other factors more relevant to a console than BC, that thinking the lack of free BC is going to make Sony lose to Xbox is funny.
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