| killeryoshis said: You can make hardware completely Backwards compatible and not ask a single developer. When Nintendo made the Wii it was completely backward compatible with the Gamecube. You can play any Gamecube game on the Wii. Sony also did this with the PS2 as it was able to play PS1 games no problem. Developers can't legally stop the Xbox 4 and PS5 from being backward compatible like the Wii. However, Developers can pressure Sony and Microsoft to not do it by support means. Which means that they will treat the system with no backward compatibility with better support. Honestly making a system backward compatible is a lot of work. You have to basically make two consoles in one. Which is why a lot of systems don't do it. Microsoft only has to ask developers to add a game to BC because digital rights are different from physical rights. |
Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all have differing agreements in place with games released on their platforms. - Agreements with potentially different stipulations.
Microsoft might not legally be able to provide backwards compatibility and thus require permission from each individual developer... Whilst Sony might have a different agreement in-place that sidesteps that entirely.
| Kerotan said: Does digital BC work the same as physical? As in Sony don't need to ask devs to allow us to play our digital ps4 games on ps5? |
There might be different agreements in place.
| Cloudman said: I don't see why they can't if the tech isn't very different. The Wii wasn't that different from the GC, so it made it possible for BC. With there not being any weird tech like the cell processor in the PS3 (as far as I know), if the tech is not too different it could be possible for the PS5 to be BC I suppose. |
Backwards compatibility can still break despite the hardware still being x86+AMD. - Lots has actually changed since 2013, especially on the CPU side.
| Hiku said: I'm sure they don't need to ask permission to make the hardware backwards compatible. |
Depends on console, depends on agreements in place.
| Mr Puggsly said: C'mon, in one hand they're suggesting people don't care BC. On the other hand they still sell old games. Sony just released a device that plays PS1 games (badly). You can buy emulated PS2 games on PS4 and you can play PS3 games on PS Now. To be blunt, Sony is full of shit and downplayed BC because emulating PS3's CPU is difficult/impossible with the PS4's CPU. Emulating the 360 was easier because the CPU was more common tech and less capable. MS and Nintendo say dumb shit as well. Simply try to decipher why they say it. |
People said it was impossible for the Xbox 360 to be emulated on the Xbox One and I always argued the opposite.
Same with the Playstation 3, I think it is entirely possible to emulate that console on the Playstation 4.
I think people need to go out and actually research all the fundamental ways that backwards compatibility can be achieved, Microsoft for instance takes a very interesting approach on the Xbox One.
I mean shit. On the PC, the Playstation 3 Emulator is better than the Xbox 360 Emulator, so much for Cell being a hindrance?
Besides, because of the core counts of the 7th gen consoles... It's actually made emulation easier as games tend to have less of a reliance on timing.
| Jigsawx1 said: - "Can MS & Sony just simply make next gen fully BC? " simply, yes because the architecture of the hardware will be the same |
Well. No. The Architecture of the hardware will not be the same.

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