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SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

"For social research, historical re-enactments, art,....again, context is crucial."

ok so the word itself is not a justification for calling someone a racist, but its the word and an indication of hostility towards another race

can you detail for me how exactly sargon indicated hostility towards black people?

Again?  OK.  Reposting to show you....again.  because I've already said this exact thing to you.

"And it's made worse because he is basically saying white people are superior to black people. He said a white person of poor action/thought is a white N-word. He was calling them white-black people. As though being black is a bad thing to be."

Do you understand this now?  Do I need to break this down even further?

"So a white guy can call black people the N-word"

sargon did not do this and sargon is the topic of discussion correct? so why are you creating this strawman?

again if i'm wrong indicate how his comments were directed towards a black person

That's not the context from which I was answering you.  You said, "the context that matters is whether the user is hostile towards black people or not because otherwise just about everyone is a racist since, for example, many people recite the n word to rap lyrics for example."  Don't change your context when responding to others.

i ignored it because its bullshit, again if i'm wrong produce the post with me saying so

Patience.  You have 5,000 posts to track through.  I'm willing to admit my recollection may be for a different poster.  But again, you can quickly prove me wrong with a pic while I keep searching.

" And regarding rap lyrics.  Everyone one of them will tell you don't say it when the word comes up."

again bullshit

You can prove they are OK with white people saying the N-word when rapping their lyrics?  Did you even look into the Kendrick Lamar concert incident I told you about?

Do you see white rappers using it?  Ever wonder why?

"Who he called a N-word is irrelevant. It's the underlying connotation of the word itself"

wow so you're basically talking in circles?

did you not just post this?

"That said, of course it can used by white people under a set of given circumstances.  For social research, historical re-enactments, art,....again, context is crucial."

How precisely do those contradict each other? 

Basically, you're not grasping it.  And we have nothing further to discuss.

Immersiveunreality said:

Oh yes we read and we fully disagree that knowing the meaning of the word makes you racist even when its use is not intented to be racist,to you the spoken intend is tied to the definition of the word in a very extreme way and no not everyone thinks so black or white.

I didn't just say knowing the meaning, I said knowing it's wrong and using it anyway.  See that last line again.  And I'm sorry but the pejorative and derogatory nature of the word is not up for you to determine.  You don't get to decide whether using it wrong or not.  That's already been decided long ago.  But go ahead and use it with wild abandon and let me know how that goes for you.

"And it's made worse because he is basically saying white people are superior to black people. He said a white person of poor action/thought is a white N-word. "

he said a white person is a white person, why are you bringing black people into it?

give me the exact phrase that is targeting a black person

 

"He was calling them white-black people."

this does not make sense, i think to any person not fishing for something to virtue signal with its obvious he's referring to white people who are behaving in his opinion in a negative way, furthermore he clarified his intent but of course that doesn't matter since as i've said this isn't about him or even black people, its about fishing for something to virtue signal with right?

 

"That's not the context from which I was answering you"

uh wtf? the context is that i'm claiming that sargon did not target a black person AND he did not indicate hostility towards black people, how did my context change?

 

"But again, you can quickly prove me wrong with a pic while I keep searching."

i suppose i could but its funny to me to watch you try to justify your racist bullshit

btw how would you ascertain whether i'm a black man or not from my picture?

 

"Do you see white rappers using it?"

yes constantly

here is one example

https://www.eminem.com/music/marshall-mathers-lp/bitch-please-ii

and you are aware that white people go to black rapper concerts right? i mean do you exist in this reality?

 

"How precisely do those contradict each other? "

at one point you say that the word itself is the problem when used by white people

""Who he called a N-word is irrelevant. It's the underlying connotation of the word itself"" 

then at another point you state that context can absolve white people of racism

""That said, of course it can used by white people under a set of given circumstances.  For social research, historical re-enactments, art,....again, context is crucial.""

if context is an important part then you cannot back the previous assertion since obviously in the latter part you are claiming that the connotation of the word becomes irrelevant depending on the context