Report- MS working on 2 next-gen Scarlett family consoles for release Holiday 2020, handheld gaming peripherals with Razer

[Trumpstyle]

Pemalite said:

Trumpstyle said:

Now with 2 leaks on Microsoft next-gen strategy and assuming Sony does a 399$ console, we now know pretty much the specs in these consoles as desktop zen2 and Navi has been leaked. Based on the leaks and a little speculation the specs we got is looking like this:

We really don't though.

Trumpstyle said:

Xbox Two (Lockhart) 300$
CPU: 6 Core, 12-thread zen2, clocked at 2,4Ghz
Gpu: Navi with 32CU, 12 GB ram Gddr6, 288 GB/s bandwidth, 192-bit bus, Amd radeon 590 performance
Storage: 1TB mechanical drive with 64GB SSD storage

PS5 400$
CPU: 8 core, 16-thread zen2, clocked at 2,6Ghz
GPU: Navi with 48CU, 16 GB ram Gddr6, 448 GB/s bandwidth, 256-bit bus, Geforce 1080/vega64 performance
Storage: 1TB mechanical drive with 128GB SSD storage

Xbox Two+ (Anaconda) 500$
CPU: 8 core, 16-thread zen2, clocked at 3Ghz
GPU: Navi with 56CU, 24 GB ram Gddr6, 672 GB/s bandwidth, 384-bit bus, Geforce 2080 performance
Storage: 1TB mechanical drive with 128GB SSD storage

I am expecting single CCX on the CPU side for all devices. It offers the best price/performance... And allows for more of the transistor budget to be sunk into the GPU side of the equation.

Navi with 56CU's to be equivalent than a Geforce 2080 is a bit of a claim, Vega 64 has 64 CU's, which is 14% more... Yet ends up being 40-60% slower than the 2080, I highly doubt AMD has made such significant strides in boosting Graphics Core Next efficiency. Grains of salt shall be had.
Granted at 7nm, they should be able to bolster clockrates, but... Still a big gap to close.

Trumpstyle said:

Will have Vapor chamber cooling for extra high clocks :) and be quiet as a stone.

Vapor chamber doesn't guarantee high clock and silent operation. - You still need a fan.
It does allow for more efficient movement of heat however.

 

A single CCX means 4 core, 8 threads, it's just too little performance and die space saving is maybe 30-40mm2. It's just no point to go so cheap on the CPU. I expect 2 CCX with maybe 2 cores deactive for better yields, but I'm betting 8 cores for Sony as they need it for easy backwards compatibility.

About the Navi gpu and CU improvements, they are based on the latest rumor/leaks. It comes from a chinese dude that leaked the radeon 590 first, adoredtv leaked some navi gpus and wccftech was first to mention navi 12 with 40 CU that has vega 56 performance. It seems Navi will bring decent performance improvement per CU. My CU estimates are not random but based on leaks/rumors (Lockhart = cut-down navi12, PS5 = cut-down Navi10, Anaconda = customized gpu with extra CUs).

It's very easy to make big improvement to GPU cores, take a look at Mali-g72 and Mali-g76 they manage to double the gpu performance per core.

Last edited by Trumpstyle - on 20 December 2018