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shikamaru317 said:
DonFerrari said:

And for certain MS have made an agreement with Sony so they don't go Ken crazy again and make a 800 USD HW that they sell for 499/599 right?

Also if MS really puts a 300-500 duo that basically are an X1X equivalent and a higher performance HW, versus a much better than X1X HW (but less than the premium offer from MS) at 400 who do you really think will win the gen? Let me give you something.

PS4 is the first console to have ever won being the most powerful at start of gen, all other in previous gen lost. So being the most powerful doesn't warranty good sales (we have plenty overpowered duds in the past). Being less expensive but giving a not up to standard experience also doesn't solve it, as show by WiiU and others as well.

You really need a good package to strike success, so sure this 300/500 duo can have success, but the lessons learned is more that you shouldn't release a more expensive HW with less perfomance because of a mandatory add-on that doesn't have relevant usage.

X1X is much more powerful than X1 and sells probably less than 1/3 of the total X1 sales. PS4Pro is about 25%. And X1X doesn't outsell PS4Pro as well.

I think MS is banking on Lockhart selling the most, just like S sells more than X this gen, Anaconda will be marketed towards hardcore gamers and Lockhart toward casual/mainstream gamers. Not even 1/4 of gamers worldwide have a 4K tv yet (and by 2020 the number of gamers with 4K tv's might still be under 1/4), so a console like Lockhart that plays next-gen games at 1080p for $300 should actually sell very well I think. Sure some people will go with the more powerful PS5 and Anaconda, either because they already have a 4k tv or because they want to futureproof, but for the casuals a $300 next-gen console should really sell well. Of course, for all we know Sony is planning on offering a basic and a premium model as well. 

If you think MS is counting on the bread and butter being the lower cost and performance, why would they have to be sure they have an option that is more powerful than the PS, plus counting on the public buying for the fullHD TV while PS5 could potentially meet both markets and have options to increase IQ on FullHD?

Like your points are a little contradicting. Or MS just want it for bragging rights because they think they won't win sales wise? (MS have talked more about the power of X1 and Cloud than Sony have ever talked on the power of PS4).



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