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shikamaru317 said:
DonFerrari said:

PS3 and PS4 had better HW than X360 and X1.

MS also said (lied) at the start of this gen that they wouldn't never allow sony to have 30% advantage on HW (after the reveal).

And how would MS know for sure that their hardware isn't outpowered before Sony either announce or release the HW? The only way they can be sure is if they always take over 12 months later than Sony to release their HW (because not all HW change can be made fast and worse, the time to dev SW for it)... or are you suggesting MS will have access to confidential development documents from Sony?

The simplest way to make sure that they are the most powerful again next gen, is to go with $550 or $600 hardware, but then sell it at a loss on release for $500. Sony most likely is going to aim for $400 anyway because it worked well for them this gen, so MS will probably still be more powerful with $500 hardware selling at a break even price of $500 on launch. 

I have a feeling we're going to see Lockhart/Scarlett Arcade at $300, PS5 at $400, and Anaconda/Scarlett Pro at $500 personally. Most likely they will all play multiplats with the same level of graphics, but at 1080p on Scarlett Arcade, 1800p on PS5, and 4k on Scarlett Pro.

And for certain MS have made an agreement with Sony so they don't go Ken crazy again and make a 800 USD HW that they sell for 499/599 right?

Also if MS really puts a 300-500 duo that basically are an X1X equivalent and a higher performance HW, versus a much better than X1X HW (but less than the premium offer from MS) at 400 who do you really think will win the gen? Let me give you something.

PS4 is the first console to have ever won being the most powerful at start of gen, all other in previous gen lost. So being the most powerful doesn't warranty good sales (we have plenty overpowered duds in the past). Being less expensive but giving a not up to standard experience also doesn't solve it, as show by WiiU and others as well.

You really need a good package to strike success, so sure this 300/500 duo can have success, but the lessons learned is more that you shouldn't release a more expensive HW with less perfomance because of a mandatory add-on that doesn't have relevant usage.

X1X is much more powerful than X1 and sells probably less than 1/3 of the total X1 sales. PS4Pro is about 25%. And X1X doesn't outsell PS4Pro as well.



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