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DonFerrari said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

You understand that it is a bit different when you launch a new console after 20m+ console last gen and when you launch a new console after a major success with 85m+ sales. When 360 launched Xbox wasn't even established as a gaming brand. It was coming after a pretty niche console. I believe in some countries people didn't even know what Xbox is. Xbox One was launched after a major success in 360 which had a lot of loyal customers and fans. Those who preferred to choose XB1 even despite all the backlash. That's why it started off pretty good. Initial sales of each consoles are always driven by certain brand fans. If you look at first months sales you will see that the gap between XB1 and PS4 wasn't that big.

Sure I understand. But please tell me what kind of turn around in sales make you go from outselling aligned to trailing behind.


The thing here is that XB1 selling a bit better than 360 wasn't a good thing from the start. It is not something you would expect from a console which already has a big established fanbase. Something, 360 didn't have. Also it is hard to predict total sales of 360 if Kinect wasn't a thing. Would it be possible for it to hit that 85m mark? I wouldn't say for sure. And about turn around which you always mention - being up/flat YoY in 5th year when your main more popular rival is down and you also have another one which is very successful and the next big thing is something you wouldn't expect without some work made on the console image. If Xbox team hadn't work hard to improve their image somehow they would definitely have dropped significantly.