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No idea whats better. I've played both a little and they aren't my cup of tea (give me diddy kong racing any day!) but, in regards to sales I think that GT5 will outsell F3 unless F3 is bundled like it was last time, even then I would put my money on GT5. I wouldn't be surprised if GT5 is the best selling ps3 game aswell for one main reason. The ps3 is strongest in europe, which is where racing games sell the best, plus its still got some presence in Japan. And due to the ps3 bigger userbase in Europe then the 360, plus the GT brand name I think that GT5 will easily outsell forza. Quality wise they're going to be similar.