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DonFerrari said: 
flashfire926 said:

Doesnt matter. Still gonna reach 80 million without a doubt. I'll bet on it. Its tracking ahead of the 3DS by a good margin, and will never fall behind it, so it get to 80M off that alone.

Yes motion control is what sold the wii. However it was pushed by nintendo's games itself. Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mariokart, Smash Brawl, Galaxy, etc. Wii Sports and Fit in particular, the wii wouldnt have been such a success without them.

Wii U was horribly botched with bad marketing and a confusing name that made it seem like some tablet add-on. It didnt help the casual market migrated to mobile, either.

The difference with the Switch is that we're seeing a unified first party that when are combined, can absolutely do 80 million without a doubt. Keep in mind this is the first home console with mainline pokemon on it, something that will sell north of 15 million copies (we just saw a taste of whats to come with lets go). 

I like your certaintude that it won't ever fall behind no doubt.

And please explain to me how the name from WiiU becoming Wii2 or SuperWii would make sales not drop 85% gen over gen.

Yes, I'm very certain that it wont fall behind launches aligned. They look to have a steady stream of games coming in 2019 that will maintain and grow its lead over the 3DS to an amount that the 3DS wont be able to come back from. No doubt about it.

Wii U faced its demise because of two things:

1) Nintendos own mistakes. Very little marketing (and the marketing that was there was very poor). A lot of my friend circle were left thinking that this is some tablet add on to the original wii. The system launched without a good killer app (2d mario clearly didnt cut it), and had a huge software drought in 2013 especially. There wouldnt be a must-own game until Mario 3D World, which came out a few years. The whole gamepad gimmick sucked as well.

2) Mobile gaming taking over the casual market that Nintendo was going for. Why buy a seperate device when the device you already have has 100's of games beforehand?

Lets say if Nintendo actually spent some marketing dollars, called it Wii 2, took more care of the software situation with a steady stream of titles, etc, some third party support wouldve arrived as a byproduct, and the Wii 2 would've sold 50 million units (still only half the wii due to Mobile gaming)



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.