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Wyrdness said:
mZuzek said:

Eh Leffen and Mango are jackasses, no need to blame the whole community for how they behave. I'm unaware of what happened though, can't be bothered to look after it since the risk of spoilers is always a thing.

Leffen's rant:

"If S4 is so good how come you're all looking forward to Ultimate"

This is only the start of it mind you and it's already one of the dumbest things anyone can argue.

That's one thing that irritates me when it comes to the Smash community.

While I like the competitive side of things, I also appreciate the casual (i.e., free-for-alls, items, hazards, multiple characters) side of things. The latter is what got me hooked into the original N64 game. 

As for Smash 4, I get there were some problems on both the competitive and casual side of things. Regardless, though, it was a fun time for me and one of my favorite games of all-time. While Ultimate will have, likely, the greatest crossover roster ever assembled, Smash 4 paved the way for it as Brawl did before Smash 4. Plus, I also liked Smash Run (though it would've been nice to see the actual players while going through the course), 8-player Smash, and playing online once in a while.

Just because I like Smash 4 doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to Ultimate. I don't think a majority are thinking that way either. You can still like the older games while looking forward to the next games. Playing Uncharted 4 doesn't mean you're abandoning Uncharted 2 or something. That's just an asinine comment by Leffen, regardless if he's a God Slayer or not.