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Mandalore76 said:
alternine said:

Doesn't matter if you think they're disappointments. He just punched a giant hole in your argument here. A fairly big list of all the new franchises. You guys just love being negative lol

Shouldn't a game have a sequel out before it's first release gets called "a new franchise/series" though?  Not a planned sequel, because anyone can launch a game and say there are going to be follow ups.  But if the follow up never happens, like in the case of "Ryse", can you really say that "Ryse" is a franchise or series?  I don't think so.  

I agree they're not really franchises or series with only one entry. Though I was just following the criteria set in the OP, (PSABR, Heavy Rain, Demon Souls etc).

Though if we do only include games with multiple entries that give a big advantage to the older generation anyway. With series like TLOU, Rage not getting their second game until the following generation.