PS2 2005 vs PS4 2018 NPD

[zorg1000]

DonFerrari said:

Shadow1980 said:

Believe it or not, but people are at least subconsciously cognizant of the effects of inflation. They know a dollar doesn't go as far today as it did back in 2001. $400 was prohibitively expensive 25 years ago, and that exact price point is what made the Neo-Geo a niche product and was obviously a major factor that hurt the Saturn. It may have been a factor behind the 360 having a slow start, but it didn't cripple it because $400 wasn't worth as much in 2005-06 as it was a decade earlier. And $400 in 2013-present is downright reasonable now.

Thank you for not only proving my point on the mental barrier but to also show that PS4 at this time in its life is the most expensive PS console and still tracking ahead.

zorg1000 said:

This PS2 vs PS4 mental barrier you speak of doesnt exist, consumers are making zero comparisons to PS2 price when they pick up a PS4. The point stands that $299 in 2000/2001 had the same value as $399 in 2013/2014.

Nintendo couldn't resolve them because it sold better than expected and it takes time to ramp up production. If they planned to release during a holiday season than they would have planned things differently in the months leading up to launch.

I never said they make comparison to PS2 pricing, where did you took that from? What I said is that mental barrier on prices exist if they didn't they would price consoles at 300 or 400 instead of 299 or 399. The biggest number on the first digit makes a cognitive difference to people believe it or not.

Sure they would plan different. But you perhaps have missed all the threads on their bad position for ramp production, RAM scarcity and all. How many units had they available for WiiU launch (that they expected to be a success as far as I know) during Holidays? Where they able to produce 4.5M consoles ahead of time?

What Shadow posted goes against your point, not for it. Hes saying that inflation is something that needs to be considered. $400 was considered too expensive for a new console in the 90s while it is a fair price in the 2010s.

Because that is within the context of our conversation. You said PS4 launched at $100 more than PS2, I responded that adjusted for inflation they had the same launch price, you then responded about mental barriers. Your $299/399 vs $300/400 example is true but does not relate to our discussion because we are talking about devices that released 13 years apart, not devices that were on the market side by side.

 

Yes, they weren't able to ramp production because at that time it was already too late, Switch sales were far stronger than they anticipated for a Spring launch. Wii U shipped 3.06m in its first month which was below expectations and caused them to drop their fiscal year forcast from 5.5m to 4.0m.