Pemalite said:
DonFerrari said:
I agree 400 USD is a good pricepoint and that it isn't good business decision to have it cost you 800 USD, still it didn't prevent Sony from doing it and along the gen cutting down cost. |
But they did pay for their mistake with the Playstation 3 early on... Ironically, the Xbox One made a similar mistake at $500 USD, hopefully Microsoft learned from that for next gen.
Sure Sony paid for it. But it still doesn't invalidate that companies not always look at the cheapest or most cost concious solution, and you including MS with X1 (which was more due to Kinect than the rest of the HW anyway) shows that isn't even exclusive to Sony.
DonFerrari said:
Sure Sony could, but SW and OS isn't their core business, they don't have the expertise and the expense wouldn't bring any additional revenue, so pretty pointless effort (even more when you talk about chosing the least expensive stuff). |
Allot of emulators have already been built, the Playstation Classic for example is using an Emulator that wasn't developed by Sony.
Why not leverage that? Why not work with an emulator group and hire them to build an emulator?
Because that would diminish their sales of remasters/remakes, not bring any extra HW sales. So why waste money on it?
DonFerrari said:
Exaggeration on finding a second job. It isn't really something that expensive, people buy 1000 USD phones every two years.
And people took out of context and distorted. He was more like saying that the PS3 was so good and had so much value that people would WANT (not SHOULD) to work more to buy it and that would improve economy in the world. |
I have 4x Jobs, so it's not really applicable to me anyway.
However his statement was in poor taste, regardless of how you try and spin it. - He could have probably worded it a little differently so that he didn't come off as arrogant.
Totally agree on it, but pushing it as intention was another thing is just pushing a false narrative. Plus the person is from another culture where the meaning of what is said is also very different.
DonFerrari said:
No, you accepted it later when pointed out, your initial post was that NEVER done it.
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False.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8924040
And I quote: "The price on launch day important. No longer will Sony or Microsoft make a gamble like Sony did with the Playstation 3... And have a stupidly expensive console on launch." - I reiterated that point a couple times.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8923611 you posted this before "Price is the most important factor to building a console, they are cost sensitive devices that cannot have high-end components."
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8922586 "Performance is secondary to cost in the console space, that's the reality of the situation."
You were putting as absolute rule without any caveats at first, and your quoted is from what you where telling Intrinsic afterwards of even the replies you gave me.
DonFerrari said:
Still DVD drive was more expensive than keeping CD, but they chose DVD for PS2 as they chose CD for PS1 when it was still more expensive than other solutions, because they had a target. Also PS2 launched for much less than it costed to produce. Up until now every console Sony made costed them more at launch than it was sold at, with PS4 being the one with the smallest GAP and fastest to be profitable on the HW itself. You can check if you wish.
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I haven't disputed any of that. In-fact I agree (And recognized earlier in the thread) that sometimes the cost to manufacture exceeds to the sales price.
But, that doesn't mean you are going to get $1,000 worth of console hardware for $100, doesn't make business sense.
You are putting a very grave exaggeration to try and dismiss the point.
It isn't even sometimes, Playstation had ALL 4 consoles cost exceeding pricetag, ALL 3 Xbox were as well as I remember.
And the point in this is that they had much cheaper options and still didn't chose those, while you pointed that they don't do it. Sure you later made the caveat that they don't go scratch bottom, but still choosing BD drive at a time BD players retailed more expensive than PS3 itself certainly isn't choosing even the cost conscient solution.
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