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Intrinsic on 27 November 2018
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LipeJJ said:
I think we'll all be surprised (again) once they reveal the actual console. It's always more powerful than people expect, and with time the exclusives start to show the difference also stronger than people anticipated. It's always like that, and I doubt this time will be different.

Btw, I hope they charge $500 so they can pack in better stuff. That said, they should also have a $450 SKU with only 500GB HDD or something to offer a better price for those who want it.

Since the consoles settled on X64.... its now kinda easy to estimate just how powerful they can be. There are components we can't possibly guesstimate though, like RAM type and quantity and storage type and quantity but we can make a pretty solid guess on the APU if using a $150 as a ceiling. To put it into perspective the 28nm APU in the PS4 back in 2013 cost around $125. 

And the 16nm APU in the PS4pro probably also cost around $130. Its safe to conclude that a 7nm APU in the PS5 that has at least double the power of the PS4pro will also cost around $130. 

I say at least double because said APU will also be ale to run at much higher clocks and so on.  

EricHiggin said:
Pemalite said:

Can't forget the Power Supply efficiency as well. If the Subor has an 70% efficient unit and the Xbox One has a 90% efficient unit, that can account for 20-30w of power right there as wasted.

Forget? LOL. Another good point though. While I can't find the PSU spec for the Subor, with Pro having a 4.2TF GPU spec with a 310w PSU, and XB1X having a 6.0TF GPU spec with a 245w PSU, it probably fits somewhere in that range of efficiency vs performance. It is important to point out that yes, that can make a pretty big efficiency difference with just one component like the PSU, since those two consoles use pretty similar hardware, with XB1X having more premium components and a clear performance advantage, yet a much smaller peak PSU output. While the Subor uses Ryzen, and Polaris with some Vega baked in, Zen 2, Navi, GDDR6, etc, if they ended up in next gen consoles, would be that much more efficient vs their gains in performance. Like you say, the marketing numbers only tell a fraction of the story.

Technically speaking, the PSU sec doesn't really say much about the console efficiency. 

Both the PS4pro and XB1x use around 90W when running games. PS4pro uses 2W when its asleep and XB1x uses 11W. 

How much power is allotted for USB ports and stuff are factors to consider when looking at the PSU.