| EricHiggin said: The Subor also doesn't have the same low level API the consoles have, which would lead to more power consumption to get the same results. Put a comparable 2TF PC up against a PS4 and not only is it going to struggle to try and match it, it's going to do so at a much higher price, while consuming more power. Navi will definitely improve on performance per watt, and probably more than you would expect if PS is directly involved, otherwise PS5 might as well just use Polaris or Vega. |
Can't forget the Power Supply efficiency as well. If the Subor has an 70% efficient unit and the Xbox One has a 90% efficient unit, that can account for 20-30w of power right there as wasted.
| DonFerrari said: I agree 400 USD is a good pricepoint and that it isn't good business decision to have it cost you 800 USD, still it didn't prevent Sony from doing it and along the gen cutting down cost. |
But they did pay for their mistake with the Playstation 3 early on... Ironically, the Xbox One made a similar mistake at $500 USD, hopefully Microsoft learned from that for next gen.
| DonFerrari said: Sure Sony could, but SW and OS isn't their core business, they don't have the expertise and the expense wouldn't bring any additional revenue, so pretty pointless effort (even more when you talk about chosing the least expensive stuff). |
Allot of emulators have already been built, the Playstation Classic for example is using an Emulator that wasn't developed by Sony.
Why not leverage that? Why not work with an emulator group and hire them to build an emulator?
| DonFerrari said: Exaggeration on finding a second job. It isn't really something that expensive, people buy 1000 USD phones every two years. And people took out of context and distorted. He was more like saying that the PS3 was so good and had so much value that people would WANT (not SHOULD) to work more to buy it and that would improve economy in the world. |
I have 4x Jobs, so it's not really applicable to me anyway.
However his statement was in poor taste, regardless of how you try and spin it. - He could have probably worded it a little differently so that he didn't come off as arrogant.
| DonFerrari said: No, you accepted it later when pointed out, your initial post was that NEVER done it. |
False.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8924040
And I quote: "The price on launch day important. No longer will Sony or Microsoft make a gamble like Sony did with the Playstation 3... And have a stupidly expensive console on launch." - I reiterated that point a couple times.
| DonFerrari said: Still DVD drive was more expensive than keeping CD, but they chose DVD for PS2 as they chose CD for PS1 when it was still more expensive than other solutions, because they had a target. Also PS2 launched for much less than it costed to produce. Up until now every console Sony made costed them more at launch than it was sold at, with PS4 being the one with the smallest GAP and fastest to be profitable on the HW itself. You can check if you wish. |
I haven't disputed any of that. In-fact I agree (And recognized earlier in the thread) that sometimes the cost to manufacture exceeds to the sales price.
But, that doesn't mean you are going to get $1,000 worth of console hardware for $100, doesn't make business sense.
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