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o_O.Q on 18 November 2018
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Hiku said:
o_O.Q said:


what his peers said renate alumni it means : "Two of Judge Kavanaugh’s classmates say the mentions of Renate were part of the football players’ unsubstantiated boasting about their conquests."

can you post me the quote of kavanaugh saying this is not true? if i remember correctly he said it means something nice and i'd assume every man frames his conquests as being nice

why are you trying to frame the sexual activities of other people as bad?

you keep denying it but its obviously the motivational basis for the arguments you keep pushing forwards

 

with regards to devil's triangle he called it a drinking game, why can't he frame him drinking and having sex with people as a game? many people do

what doesn't make sense is to characterise that as a lie

 

with regards to boofing? what do you have on that? i asked you before and you simply ran away without answering the question

 

i think its interesting how instead of talking about what he was accused of and any supposed evidence people are just jumping around looking for any sign of misbehavior on his part over the entirety of his life... especially since i'm sure many of these people wouldn't enjoy similar scrutiny being leveled at them

1. Sure. And by the way, as I was in a rush I forgot to list 2-3 other cases where Kavanaugh potentially perjured himself. Two of them date back to the 2000's, which became apparent a few months ago as the senate reviewed over a hundred thousand pages of documents about Kavanaugh. An official complaint was made to the D.C. circuit and a judge was overseeing the case, but as Kavanaugh was confirmed before it concluded, it's uncertain what will happen to it. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6229253/Brett-Kavanaugh-faces-official-ethics-complaints-Merrick-Garland-decide-them.html

And here's what Kavanaugh said about Renate alumnius: "The media reported that it referred to sex. It did not." https://youtu.be/4ccXpDhMmBY?t=144

And again, I'm not condemning him for potentially slut shaming a girl, drinking excessively, or having casual sex. We all did stupid things as teenagers.
But most of us did not grow up to then swear an oath to uphold as a judge. I can understand white lies. But when you are a federal judge, it is concerning if they disregard the oath when it's not convenient. Not to mention that it's an illegal punishable offense.

So I hope you understand now, as I don't know how I can explain this any better.
Slut shaming, having sex, excessive drinking = Understandable.
Being a judge and lying about it under oath = Not ok.

As for Devil's Triangle, same thing as I just said above. If he had just said that it was a sexual reference, no one would pay more attention to it. However, assuming it is true that it was also a drinking game he and his friends came up with, if you and your friends come up with a drinking game called "doggy style" and you write "Doggy style" in your yearbook, just like that with no additional context. Would you or would you not presume that people reading your comment would think of the sexual reference?
Rhetorical question. Of course you would. If you did not want them to think you meant the commonly known sexual reference, you would add context to specify otherwise.
Several of his classmates including his roommate said he frequently used some of these terms in a sexual context.

As for boofing, it supposedly refers to something going into the ass, rather than out of it. Reporters extensively interviewed Kavanaugh's former classmates about this.


And you don't have to be rude. I told you I'll get back to you if I missed any of your replies.

And if you find it interesting that people talk about his conduct instead of the sexual allegations, I don't see anyone doing that. There's no reason why he can't be criticized for both, however.

"And here's what Kavanaugh said about Renate alumnius: "The media reported that it referred to sex. It did not.""

ok and can you show me the evidence that for him at that point in time it did not? you understand that the claims of other people is not evidence when it comes to the written intent someone has? since anyone can have an assortment of reasons for writing something?

 

"it is concerning if they disregard the oath when it's not convenient. Not to mention that it's an illegal punishable offense."

punishable with evidence, what is your evidence? 

 

"So I hope you understand now"

i understand all the narratives you have been typing since they are not your arguments but came from reporters who reported on this issue

i don't think you understand what you are playing into yourself but that's besides the point

 

" If he had just said that it was a sexual reference, no one would pay more attention to it. However, assuming it is true that it was also a drinking game he and his friends came up with"

as i've said many people refer to hanging out, drinking and having sex as a game, so again you have no argument

 

the thing you don't seem to be understanding here is that you are trying to ascribe the internal workings of a man's mind 30 years ago to words written 30 years ago, which is the stupidest thing ever, you can infer from the claims of his peers what his intent may have been but you can never determine it definitely

its a stupid narrative being pushed out since no one could bring forth direct evidence of his assaulting or raping anyone, so we jump straight to assassinating his character in anyway possible

 

" if you and your friends come up with a drinking game called "doggy style" and you write "Doggy style" in your yearbook, just like that with no additional context. Would you or would you not presume that people reading your comment would think of the sexual reference?"

yes that would be the first thing that comes to mind but as i have said people can have a multitude of reasons for writing certain things down

and i wouldn't be so stupid to suggest that this could be used as evidence for anything

 

"As for boofing, it supposedly"

supposedly, so why are you talking about it? you don't know what the intent was again so why bring it up?

this is how tenuous the attempts to make this man a villain have become - harping on about ass jokes made 30 years ago, "liberals" really have gone mad