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John2290 said:
SvennoJ said:

I loved Fallout 4 and had far less issues with the controls there. It did have more glitches yet mission were designed much better, were pretty dynamic and didn't feel as restrictive. You also had very different paths through the story worthy of multiple play throughs. Of course not everyone enjoyed the building mechanic, I did personally and thought it was a brilliant way to put all that normally useless loot to good use.  RDR2 excels in graphics and acting. Fallout 4 has it beat on mission design and side story content.

RDR2's controls are not bad because of starting out low level. It's as DonFerrari says, using the same button for different things. Like R3 is turn 180 or enter dead eye depending on whether you are aiming the gun. Interaction with npcs is a chore and I have accidentally shot store keepers in the face while trying to talk. Yet the most annoying is how the game keeps grabbing hold of the first person camera, shaking, rolling, pointing, it's like someone keeps grabbing hold of my head and making me look a certain way. It gets really bad when you try to climb a ridge. It's hard to tell when a slope goes beyond the magic max degrees where he gets in a slide and the game grabs hold of the camera not letting you turn it for several seconds. Same for any of the pre-baked animations. Half-Life 2 nailed the way to grab a player's attention without limiting your movement speed or forcing the camera in a certain way. In RDR2 I don't feel in control a lot of the time. To RDR2 I say:



Another bloody annoying thing is that when I'm looking around inside a house or cabin and my butt gets to close to a door he automatically turns around to go outside. Don't get near a ladder either when you're simply looking around. I still managed to fall to my death when intending to use a ladder... Yet I did finally figure out which guns shoot immediately and which you have to press R2 a second time to load the next bullet.

Anyway I'm happily exploring again. I abandoned my family at the start of the Epilogue, got back to the canoe at the end of the Dakota river and paddles past thieve's landing! They still shot at me yet no instant kill this time and I made it past. I had to get out at the waterfall a bit beyond, filmed some timelapse footage until after sun down and got eaten by wolves. That gave me my horse back to thanks wolves. Of course they ate me again 5 minutes later, so I camped instead and was magically teleported up a cliff some way off. Darn aliens always abducting me in my sleep and dropping me off somewhere else! I followed th river further towards Mexico yet at some point you reach the death line. Can't swim across and the river bed is marked off limits. It was fun watching my poor horse trying to climb up the forbidden slope, then I had the same problem and drowned not long after. Respawn somewhere completely different again lol.

The game is fun again, however it's rather empty so far, which is a good thing. Plus since I have no guns I can't go hunting the new legendary animals. I should have gone to town first as I didn't realize I still have all my old inventory (how????). So I should sell all my old loot and get a decent horse and guns. That might be a while as I'm currently as far South as possible. Awesome place!

I'm not having qny of those issues with controls, although I did change a LOT of settings as for point teo of my rant. The only issues I had starting from scratch was the leveling (on weapons and stamina/dead eye) which would cause me to aim very badly.  For me currently in my first save file at end game, I hav'nt had an issue since I left Gaurma which fucked me over because of the shit guns with none of my maintenance or upgrades. 

I have no idea why you'd choose first person though, it's a drastically different game visually in third person and a shit ton less... janky. I'd be annoyed to missout on the incredible cinematic scenery and the feelings that instills with the ambience and atmosphere which has made this game more than the sum of it's parts. 

Oh and you still have your inventory because Arthur hands his satchel to john with his diary and so on. You shouldn't be able to take full advantage of it until part two of the epilogue though as far as I can remember, that's odd. Oh and don't worry about making money back, I did and well, not to spoil anything but later on I wasn't in need of money. 

Also, is it possible for them to be stealth patching this game? There are a lot of things that seem to be changing from what I've read and seen from others playing. It shouldn't be possible right? Recently seen a streamer play for the first time and they had auto  painting dead eye from the start with all the benifets. 

only used dead aim in the mandatory scenes, one hunt and section of final mission.

Just pressing and releasing aim button at each time you shoot will already reposition your aim to the next target so it's just a matter of fine tunning. I had like 80% headshots when I had multiple enemies to shoot and needed every shoot to count.



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