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Mummelmann said:
SvennoJ said:

Indeed, 95% of camp funds are contributed by Arthur as well as keeping food supplies well stocked by donating all food to the butcher in camp. Yet still they complain I'm never there and not pulling my weight. I've never seen anyone else do chores around camp. Bunch of lazy people just sitting around waiting for you to help them with some crazy idea.

Yeah, I guess there is no point. Dutch keeps going on about some big score while I also already have over $4000 and nothing to buy. Camp funds are over $1500 as well with nothing left to upgrade and everything well stocked. Although currently there is no more camp.

Here's a typical story mission in 3 minutes with the crappy game play. It's end chapter 4 or begin chapter 5, doesn't spoil much anyway.

Without looting it should flow better and you don't have to re-equip the gun all the time. It's most annoying when you press R3 expecting eagle eye and instead Arthur turns 180 because your gun is holstered again.

Currently Arthur seems intent on giving his money away and again I have no say in how much or whether I want to. No player agency at all :/ Trundle on, I will unlock Blackwater and the appendix beyond.

It irritates me how little everyone contributes. I've basically paid for all the upgrades in the camp myself, and I've donated at least 2000-2500$ to do this, in the same time frame, the collective gang have donated a generous and wholesome 200$ or so. They can't be doing much of anything.

Don't forget that one of the upgrades says this will incentivize others to donate more.

And funny every time you go to camp they are all merry over there... you are basically the slave father of a very big leechery family.

SvennoJ said:
Baddman said:
I've forgone upgrading the camp or adding to camp funds fuck em they don't help but telling me shit when I come back to camp after I'm gone for a long time. wish I could tell dutch and em fuck off and go on my own dumb asses always getting me into shit

There are several points where Dutch asks Arthur if he would rather leave the gang and go it alone. And I'm like YES YES say YES you dumb fuck. But no, Arthur always crawls back under Dutch's wing. He's a coward not willing to do the obvious. Arthur must have some serious crush on Dutch to make the story even remotely make sense!

Arthur is also a huge hypocrite. Giving Dutch heck for killing an 'innocent' that might betray them while they're running for their lives, then later he happily wipes out a settlement for yet another new spot for camp. Of course R* makes sure to paint the occupants as evil in some way, got to keep it black and white. It's like two very different teams were in charge of world building and main story design.

I'm not sure what the point was of upgrading the camp. I've never used any supplies from camp, nor the fast travel or stables. I tend to avoid camp as the game slows you down to walking through molasses in camp. I guess they complain even more if you don't keep the camp stocked.

Dutch basically created him, so they have a father/son relationship so Arthur follows him to the end even after much abuse.

I haven't killed an innocent once, but yes the lecture on Dutch killing to get back the gold and avoid another betrayal is ridiculous, and after you being betrayed so many times you should appreciate that him for once is concerned with it.



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