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Machiavellian said:
iron_megalith said:

Now regarding who has blood in their hands, there have been constant shifts between republican and democrat administrations to simply say which side is truly at fault. Regardless of which, the fact of the matter is that the topic of immigration is being used in such a dirty manner by both sides. The biggest offender for this IMO is the vocal democrats who are using this as a campaign slogan that suggests to just bypass things instead of actually suggesting a proper long term and fair solution.

This is what I am talking about.  Exactly where have you read that democrats what to bypass our current immigration laws.  Please provide the actual democrat that want this and not some right wing talking point or the President himself who just spout crap without any evidence to his claims.  Here are some articles I found on the issue.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/fast-check-donald-trump-democrats-open-borders.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/07/calls-to-abolish-ice-not-open-borders/

I wonder if you have not fallen for an old political trick.  

No I didn't. I've seen enough political ads here in California to form my own opinion. The only thing they're standing up for is the "immigrants regardless of status" meaning including illegal immigrants.

I've yet to see a democratic political ad here in my area that talks about reform and fairness in immigration policy.

Last edited by iron_megalith - on 04 November 2018