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thismeintiel on 26 October 2018
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Hiku said:
melbye said:

This has as much to do with Trump as the Bernie-supporter who shot Steve Scalise has to do with Bernie Sanders

Yes, because Bernie encouraged violence among his own people.
In fact I have some Bernie quotes here:


(It's missing some of my favorite quotes though, like "I'll pay your legal fees" and "maybe you second amendment people can do something about it.")

Don't make false equivalences. I saw this inaccurate Bernie comparison from Lindsey Graham and certain right wing media, and I expected people to parrot it in this thread without even considering why people are discussing Trump.
It's not because this person was a Trump fan. That would be ridiculous. It's because of Trump encouraging violence. Both politically motivated violence, and otherwise. This is not normal for a president in a non authoritarian country. And what a president says, when millions of people look up to him (and some event believe he was sent by God), has consequences.

thismeintiel said:

Or the guy who sent white powder to Reps just a few weeks ago. Of course, that doesn't help with the narrative, so those stories are dropped quickly.

No one in Washington (to my knowledge) has encouraged political violence, except for Trump.
That has been the narrative for a few years now. This is not a new subject.
If Bernie had told his supporters to injure protesters, or "Maybe you second amendment people can do something about it", etc, then yes, his influence on the shooter would have been considered and his behavior criticized.

But as it stands, we can't say that Bernie has said anything that promoted violence among his supporters.
The same however can not be said of Trump.

Then, you have either not been paying attention or are blinded by bias.  It's telling that you guys have to go back to 2016 for those quotes, ones that many on the right denounced at the time, as well.  Ever since becoming President he has only spouted the normal political rhetoric about his political opponents.  The Dems, on the other hand, have been calling for civil unrest ever since they lost the Kavanaugh battle.  Maxine Waters calling for mobs to surround Reps in public places and yell at them that they are not welcome there.  Corey Booker telling Dems to get up into Reps faces.  Eric Holder saying that when the Reps go low, "we kick them."  Hillary saying there will only be a return to civility when they regain power. This all while making excuses for or completely ignoring violent groups like Antifa.

It doesn't help when the Dems are constantly calling Reps racist and sexists who hate minorities.  Basically labeling them as pure evil.  Bernie himself said that the Reps policies would lead to "thousands of people dying."  Pretty extreme rhetoric that could easily trigger a crazy wanting to stop those "deaths."  If you want to blame the right for the fake bombs wanting to scare Dems, then you have to blame Dems for a man trying to murder a couple dozen Rep Congressman and the man sending Ricin, something that absolutely would have hurt or killed its intended targets, to Reps just a couple weeks ago.  Unless you are a complete hypocrite, of course.