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AngryLittleAlchemist on 21 October 2018
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quickrick said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Wrong.

The PS4 SOLD 4.2 million units by December 28th, 2013. That's SOLD through to consumers. (https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140108a.html)

I can't tell whether or not the IR report is shipped or sold (I'm assuming shipped, lord knows we've come to that conclusion on many previous discussions after heated debate, and either way it doesn't matter considering that PS4's number is sold through) but it took Switch 3.75 months to hit 4.7 million units (https://wccftech.com/nintendo-switch-sold-4-7m-units-june-30/) 

In other words, PS4's sell-through rate in it's holiday launch was almost as much as Switch's shipments in almost FOUR MONTHS

4.2 million shipped.  dudejust compare time frames, with out a launch boost  and see the massive difference in shipments numbers. ps4 could have shipped 7- million easy with a holiday and launch boost, its regularly ships around 6-8 million during that period look at what switch is shipping this year in the same time period when it was supply contrained.

Are you going to ignore the fact that I LITERALLY LINKED Sony's own website

https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140108a.html

"Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. today announced that cumulative sales of the PlayStation®4 (PS4™) computer entertainment system have reached 4.2 million*1 as of December 28, 2013, demonstrating the explosive growth of the PS4 platform."

(look at that asterisk)

And at the bottom of the page they explain the asterisk:

*1Number of retail sales to consumers is estimated by SCEI.

By the way, the whole "It isn't fair! Switch had a launch and a holiday season" thing is a totally fair point , and in fact that's what I thought the direction you were going in was. But ... then you ended up making a completely different argument that, for some odd reason, you think the PS4 was way undershipped compared to Switch. Which, isn't even a great argument, since I already said they were both undershipped. 

Also, the "Switch had a launch and holiday season" thing is a tad overplayed. Half of November is still part of a holiday season, and that's where PS4's first year ends. I agree that it explains why Switch won first year, but again, I'm correcting you on the shipment argument.