RolStoppable said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:
You perform some pretty remarkable mental gymnastics, not sure if it's in the vein of deceit or naivete. My guess is the former.
Your question wasnt directed towards me specifically, so I did not address it. In fact, I didnt even watch the speech. The only reason I posted in this thread to begin with was reactionary; to Lurker's turbulent and problematic comment.
There were several questions directed at both you and Lurker, challenging your abilities to accurately critique prominent members of hip hop culture...which you both cunningly ignored. So no, I am not the culprit of dodging. I've replied to every comment addressed towards me, while you and Lurker have cherry picked which posts to reply to.
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Does that mean you recognize Kanye West as a highly intellectual individual?
EDIT: Oops, you said that you didn't even watch the speech. That answers my question.
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Okay now that's out of the way, would you like to address several of these comments directed at you and Lurker that were ignored?
PortisheadBiscuit said:
RolStoppable said:
Hip-hop and rap is music that isn't known for intellectual lyrics or even human decency. If that is used as the basis for your expectations, then being mere average as far as coherence goes can already be considered amazing. If your expectations are based on a normal level though, then "amazing" turns into "average at best".
I hope that explanation helped.
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To people who don't know anything about hip hop except trap and gangsta rap, this is probably true. The culture extends far beyond that narrow-minded view however.
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jason1637 said:
RolStoppable said:
Hip-hop and rap is music that isn't known for intellectual lyrics or even human decency. If that is used as the basis for your expectations, then being mere average as far as coherence goes can already be considered amazing. If your expectations are based on a normal level though, then "amazing" turns into "average at best".
I hope that explanation helped.
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There are many big lyrical rappers like Kendrick Laman, Logic, J Cole.
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Machiavellian said:
RolStoppable said:
Hip-hop and rap is music that isn't known for intellectual lyrics or even human decency. If that is used as the basis for your expectations, then being mere average as far as coherence goes can already be considered amazing. If your expectations are based on a normal level though, then "amazing" turns into "average at best".
I hope that explanation helped.
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Not only did that explanation did not help it really only explained your viewpoint of hip hop music. Just because you are ignorant of the music doesn't mean your viewpoint is widely shared.
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jason1637 said:
LurkerJ said:
100%.
lol. "Big Lyrical". They're less silly than the average rapper, but that doesn't make them big lyricals. This only enforces what I said, the standards for being great in that medium needs to be revised.
Nah, I just refuse to give him a pass because he represents a minority. Ironically, the roles have reversed and conservatives are hailing some gibberish because it's coming from Kanye
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Have you listened to the rappers I mentioned? Also what musician (doesn't have to be a rapper) would you consider to be lyrical?
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PortisheadBiscuit said:
LurkerJ said:
100%.
lol. "Big Lyrical". They're less silly than the average rapper, but that doesn't make them big lyricals. This only enforces what I said, the standards for being great in that medium needs to be revised.
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So who's an example of a "lyrical" rapper? Or are you just judging the entire genre as a whole? In which case, would make your entire "point" null and void.
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Mystro-Sama said:
RolStoppable said:
Hip-hop and rap is music that isn't known for intellectual lyrics or even human decency. If that is used as the basis for your expectations, then being mere average as far as coherence goes can already be considered amazing. If your expectations are based on a normal level though, then "amazing" turns into "average at best".
I hope that explanation helped.
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Tell me more about your vast knowledge of hip-hop and its many sub genres, since you're so informed on the subject.
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