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MTZehvor on 14 October 2018
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RolStoppable said:
MTZehvor said:

Fans are often the first to complain when things go south. It was only two years ago that your own Packers, and Aaron Rodgers in particular, got booed off their home field after a Week 5 loss. And it wasn't as if the year was off to a terrible start, either; the loss only dropped them to 3-2 on the season. When it comes to their own teams, fans (myself included) are fickle people. A win means you're the best team in the league, and a loss means you're worse than last year's Browns.

Not to say that criticism of Eli isn't warranted, but you can point to practically any Giants loss in the past ten years and Giants' fans won't be defending their team.

Week 5 of 2016... no memory of such a thing. Let me check.

Packers won 23-16 against the Giants. The irony. Not only did the Packers win contrary to what you said, but they defeated the hapless Giants that you seem to defend at all costs.

Your hyperbole isn't any better. I am reminded of the time when you argued that the QB position in American football isn't the most important and impactful position by far. You have to learn to admit that you are wrong when you opened with a really bad argument. Don't drag it out like Bravely Default and pass it off as sound.

My bad, it was Week 6. Forgot that Green Bay had their bye early that season.

Not that it matters much, at least as long as you stop producing any arguments of your own. If you have anything to refute what I've said beyond "some other people said Eli was bad too," then I'd love to hear it. But referencing fan opinions as proof of how someone is playing is about as useless and biased as citing Skip Bayless or something. People are just absurdly fickle, especially about things they care about. The same fans who booed Rodgers off the field and left the stadium early were probably the most vocal supporters when they reached the NFC Championship later that season.

You'll have to link me to the referenced argument, cause I'm not remembering it off the top of my head.

Also if you're going to accuse me of hyperbole, we really need to address the ridiculous degree to which you've employed it. You've somehow taken me saying that a QB who's posted average stats this season could probably put up decent numbers if the front office had done a better job, and extrapolated it to "defending the Giants at all costs." Not only was the original context of my post criticizing the Giants, but the only thing I've said in defense of Eli is that he's posted average stats. If that qualifies as '"defending at all costs" to you, then Lord help us if you ever actually run into American sports talk radio.

Last edited by MTZehvor - on 14 October 2018