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[Pemalite]

JEMC said:

Pemalite said:

Well. It might be possible now as nVidia has pulled a Geforce FX with the 2000 series, that has given AMD some breathing room to catch up possibly.
Th RX 480/580 was still a large chip for the performance level we got though... And Vega 64 was massive.

Vega 64 for example was 486 mm².
The Geforce 1080 was 314mm2.
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Radeon RX 480 was 232mm2.
Geforce 1060 was 200mm2.

AMD has a big issue in regards to efficiency and die size, they need to rein it all in, because not only were the nVidia chips smaller, they used less power and they were faster.

Well, now that AMD has a proper CPU I'm sure they could scale back the compute side of their GPUs, freeing space to make them smaller or better at games. But that would probably affect their DX12 performance and, with Ray Tracing gaining traction, that side of their GPUs could come in handy for that.

So, what AMD/RTG needs is to drop GCN and develop a new architecture from scratch (or almost). Too bad that's easier said than done.

I think a new GPU architecture is slated after Navi.
AMD tends to stick to an architecture for a long time... I.E Terascale with the Radeon 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000 and 6000 GPU's.
Before that the 9000, x800,x1900 was a relatively short lived architecture.

But GCN will probably stick around a little longer with the 7000, 8000, 200, 300, 400, 500 and probably 600 and 700 series.