I am very sad.

[Moren]

mZuzek said:

morenoingrato said:

Your lack of interest in politics does not negate the underlying causes of Bolsonaro's rise in the polls. The recession was due to Dilma's and to a certain extent Lula's mismanagement, a bubble which at some point had to burst. Blaming it on Temer is ridiculous. It is as saying the 2008/2009 recession was Obama'a fault.

Didn't the unemployment in Brazil skyrocket in the past few years? And as a consequence, crime as well? Bolsonaro's sexist and homophobic remarks are inexcusable and I will not defend him for them, but perhaps it's not *only* about social issues and rather frustrated Brazilians worried about their standard of living and their families?

He might also have authoritarian dreams but Brazil is not Nazi Germany, and his margin of win will likely be in the single digits.

Yes, of course. Brazil is a total mess right now, if it was fine we wouldn't be nearly electing a fascist president. But I simply can't be concerned about corruption or even unemployment right now... those things are the result of a mishandled economy, and they are a shame, but they don't violate human rights. I don't care how corrupt PT is, in fact I don't care about PT at all. What I care about is peace, and if someone's willing to threaten it, then I'm against that person. PT isn't against peace, so, end of story there.

Obviously, this debate really shouldn't be happening if people could vote decently. There were several other candidates with better proposals, without being either corrupt or extremist, but of course, those aren't the ones that get the most votes. So it is down to corruption vs. fascism.

 

Edit: might I add, even if Haddad wins the election, which would be something to celebrate quite a bit, I'm still likely going away from here, because the country will be a mess regardless. Right now it's just about trying to make it a peaceful mess rather than an openly violent one.

And here's the kicker: whereas you can't be concerned about corruption or unemployment, there are millions who do or were more severely affected by those issues. You may be 'sad' about some potential, speculative fascism based on unhelpful comparisons to Nazi Germany, but this is just people looking out for themselves and not imagining some radical absolute worst case scenario because they dislike the candidate's personality.

Come 10 years, Brazil will be the same as always and Bolsonaro will likely have been washed away by the winds of change.