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Entroper said:
epsilon72 said:

......so you would be for socialism and consistently high gas prices??

 

So you would be for endless wars and the loss of the Constitution and our civil rights?

 

See, I can marginalize the other side with gross generalizations, too.

 

besides which... Obama's healthcare plan isn't socialism and he is also for the endless war. He just wants to try a different way to end it.

He said himself he'd put troops back in if the pullout had negative effects... and I mean he does have plans to keep a "strike force" on a base in Iraq to strike at terrorists unilaterally.

Common sense he can't pull all the troops out of iraq and leave the place unstable if he plans to have a permanent base for strikeforce troops.

While his healthcare plan is just like how Car insurance works. Don't have healthcare for you kid? Pay a big fine when you take him to the hospital. Such a law is supposed to lead to a "lowest legal coverage" provider to come out for cheap.

There is a lot of misinformation about Obama out there on people voting for him and against him. You've gotta pay attention to what the polticians actually say when they lay out their plans. Not when they are doing their rally speeches.

Hell, McCain even wants to start withdrawing troops.  He just plans to do it a little slower then Obama to be careful it isn't going to suddenly start an upshoot in violence.