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curl-6 said:
DélioPT said:

 

You talk as though Switch rocked up when PS4/Xbone were on their last legs, but that's not the case; its first year and a half is overlapping with the peak years of PS4/Xbone. If it could hold its own against one of the most successful platforms in history at the height of its power, it's not going to be any problem for it when PS5/Nextbox turn up.

To return to the Savanna, if a bigger species of Lion turned up in the ecosystem, it would not unduly affect the vultures, because they would carry on doing their own thing, filling a different ecological role, and not directly competing.

If that's what you understood, then i'm sorry.
What i tried to say was this: Switch succeed because the market, which was already in the 80+ million consoles sold, had had enough time to be satisfied and didn't see next gen PS or XB consoles in the near future to be excited for (mindshare) and/or save Money for. And as Switch presented itself as a very reasonable purchase, that satisfied market bought it.
And that's why PS4 and XB1 could afford hitting it's peak and staying pretty much flat, respectively, in 2017.

We are not talking about a small existing market before Switch arrived, nor are we talking about average sales for Switch, btw.
To me, the conditions were perfect for Switch to succeed: same users, 80+ million consoles sold already, attractive concept and killer titles and no new competition in sight.
Also, there's a difference when your sales bring the competition's sales down and when they don't. The context needs to be taken into account.

From what i have been Reading, XB1 is now having it's best year.

As i said before, releasing when you already have the above conditions and releasing when you have to directly fight off other consoles, makes up for a completely different outcome. Even if for the simplest reason of them all: people aren't made of money nor do they have an infinite amount of time.

HoangNhatAnh said:
DélioPT said: 

LOL, name me a home console that can be play anywhere on the go like on the plane or plying while walking in the park? What home console can do that?

Switch has a portable aspect to it. Does that mean it's a portable or perceived as such?
By that logic, if i say a plane has wings and flies, should people take birds as planes or correctly perceived them as such? I don't think so.

Nintendo's marketing efforts since the beginning, best sellers, most anticipated titles, more than show that this is not a handheld with TV mode, but a home console with portability.

Heck, even Nintendo doesn't see them as directly competing. For good reason.

psychicscubadiver said:

 

'When they have to actually choose between Switch, PS5 and XB2, Switch will not be a priority'

This is what puzzles me. Why do you assume consumers must choose between them? People are already fine with buying both systems. Why do you assume that fact will change because a new gen of PS/Xbox systems?

And just to add something else to the discussion the paired buying is primarily in NA/Europe. In Japan the Switch has been dominating the PS4 in sales since the shortage was solved. It has 70% of the PS4's sales (4.9 vs 7.0 million) despite a *much* shorter life (1.5 vs 4.5 years).

Why is that thinking so strange to you?
Do people have unlimited financial resources or an infinite amount of time to spend on gaming?
People have to make choices. And they do that based on priorities.

What do you think is the most likely scenario (in 2017), people spending 300$ on a PS4, more on PSN and game(s) + 300$ Switch + game(s), OR those people who already bought 80+ million consoles, buying a Switch in higher numbers than newer PS4/XB1 users?
Personally, the most reasonable choice is the latter.
Those 70% kinda hint at the console being adopted by an old PS4/XB1 user , as the contrary would mean that there are a lot of people out there  with a huge financial freedom, to, in a year where PS4 even went up, to spend an additional 350$ (at least, on day 1). It would also mean that a vast number of old users , who happen to be same userbase, ignored everything Switch related.

I know that Japan is another story. But i don't really think it really changes things.