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Wyrdness said:
I've played those games you're mentioning not one of them does what BOTW does in its execution they're not even close and at most cover only one or two aspects in BOTW, what's ironic is you're saying that he's fixated on something yet in your argument you're clearly fixated on one aspect of BOTW and focus purely on that to try and argue your stance. BOTW's freedom is not just in its sandbox elements it's the only game that literally allows you to play not only the main game but also situations how you want and you know this because you often try to pass that off as a negative like you do in this post when it's far from one, it's not world breaking it's absolute freedom that's the whole point of the design even Aonuma said the world is built as such that's what BOTW brings to open world games it's amazing you can't grasp this, the world is very much meaningful. Some example are how if someone is struggling with a puzzle they can do a host of different tricks to solve or even bypass it, how all the enemy and boss fights have a number of tactics to deal with them only limited by your own creativity and execution, how if you can't reach a location by normal means you can find an alternative way to get there etc... That is what actual freedom of play is not the limited play as you want claims we hear in other games and it ends up being only 2 options of play with no room for out of the box thinking. Why BOTW does this? Because that's how an actual adventure would play out the adventurer using what's at their disposal to continue going on, the result is BOTW fully plays out like how the player chooses to freely approach the game whether as a story based game, sandbox, speedrun, combat focused etc... it's not just messing around as you put it and even the messing around aspects have practical applications in the game unlike other games. |
Yeah, and as I said, BotW does not do things that those game do - and that what fixated on what BotW does as something that other games need to live up to be compared to BotW means...in case you didn't understand it...yet you did just that.
If you refferring to me passing climbing as negative - I do, and always will, at least while it's implemented in this form - that is not freedom, that's is someone in Nintendo being enamoured with freeclimbing. Freedom in playing that way is playing Daggerfall or Morriwind (or D&D) and putting points into climbing/acrobatics and then being able to go to areas that are not available to other builds, or tackle the problem differently due to ability to go around some areas. BotW climbing is piss easy to do, especially with infinite amount of renewable resources that translate into potions, and breaks a game so much that by the time you get to the Hyrule castle you can skip most of it (which I did, wanting to finish the game as soon as possible, since it bored me toward the end that much) - for me, that is just poor design.
Admittedly, I fucked around in BotW for first 10 or so hours - then, when novetly grew old, I never used any of those so praised mechanisms ever again in the game - cause it was such a waste of time with no real purpose - unfortunatelly, I had to climb, cause it's just impossible to skip that at certain points in game. At least Bethesda was so curtious to not require you to play with power armor ever in FO4, with that idiotic choice to give it to you at the beginning of the game.
But to each its own - what many people consider great design, I consider rather poor solution to replace old formula.
