EricHiggin said:
So you made a poor point just so you could get to the off topic point, initially made to back up what was said about the main topic, on my part at least? I also dislike how you've made it clear you think the cure for cancer is more important than ending the suppression of blacks and minorities. They are people to you know. First, a murder victim coming back from the dead doesn't work unless your point is fictional. Secondly, "That doesn't mean she wasn't assaulted", what I said, means she very well may have been assaulted, so why are you suggesting I don't believe her? Do you think because I pointed out the DNC is potentially using her as a stall tactic, that her case isn't worthy of being heard? If your mad you should be mad at the DNC, not me. The fact that she asked for an FBI investigation doesn't matter. It's not a federal offence so the FBI has nothing to do with it. I'd like the FBI to investigate why one of my neighbors committed suicide, but that's not going to happen either. She hasn't been told to shut up and testify. The GOP had already set up a date for Monday and she refused and wanted a date later in the week and they said sure let's figure it out. As for her asking for Kavanaugh to go first is never going to happen because not only does the system not work that way, it's for good reason, because until you know exactly what your being accused of and the details of it, how are you supposed to know how to defend yourself? She's obviously trying to imply he's guilty and knows what he did so why can't he go first, but many woman in my life have given me beef because "I just should have known", when I never could have. That's not how life and court/hearings work. |
Lol, the cure for cancer is definitely more important than one protest, yes. And I'm suggesting you don't believe her, because you don't. You keep saying you don't. She told you who did it, you don't believe her. The system has no set order that witnesses go in, it could easily go Kavanaugh first. He knows what he's been accused of, he's just there to tell his side of the story. If he says he never met her before in his life, and she credibly refutes that, then he's caught in a lie. If he says he was at the party, but gives a credible explanation of what really happened that throws her story into doubt, and she can't back her story up, then he probably wouldn't be convicted by a jury. Of course, this isn't a jury, it's a congress, and really, it doesn't matter because Kavanaugh could confess to rape but ask to be seated on the court and the Republicans would do it, and Ford could say "sorry guys I was just kidding" and Kavanaugh wouldn't get a single Dem vote because even the red state dems have reasons around his opinions on campaign finance and the role and scope of the executive branch to vote against him. Really, though, if after both have given the testimony, there's even a hint that maybe he's a rapist, confirming him would damage the court's integrity, and he shouldn't be seated. Of course, all this could have been avoided if Trump nominated a different judge from his list. He had a lady lined up that would undercut most of the Dems arguments right now, and almost certainly wouldn't have even an alleged history of sexual crime or misconduct, and she would have been confirmed before September with several red state Dem votes, but Trump wanted the guy who would vote in any Mueller related case that he couldn't be indicted or even investigated as a sitting president because it's too "distracting". It's his fault we're in this mess arguing whether to believe a woman when she says who raped her when you know if this didn't have political consequences we'd all be much more likely to take her account seriously. They keep saying she should have come out in high school, and it's true that if a regular, unknown high school girl accused a regular, not-destined-for-the-supreme-court high school guy of rape, she'd have an easier time, but a)it doesn't always feel that simple when you're a high school girl and b)that's precisely why Republicans come out looking so scummy here, because everyone knows they're only ignoring her complaints because of politics (and no, "hearing her out" is still ignoring her complaints if after hearing what she has to say they ignore it as several have already pledged to do no matter what she says), even as they accuse her of only coming out now because of politics, as though there were any better time to find your courage and speak out about your rapist than when he's about to gain the power to affect a lot of women. And again, Trump could end this at any time by nominating another candidate. He has several that could be confirmed by year's end or even pre-election if he wanted if he would just withdraw this asshole and nominate say, Amy Coney Barrett, who would sail through confirmation and probably instantly become the conservative Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But no, Trump refuses to do that because he can't stand the thought of "losing" even though it wouldn't be an actual loss. He would just perceive it as one and as such is taking the whole country on a ride that needlessly creates conflict.
