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shikamaru317 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes, let's pad numbers, we totally have evidence for that.

So we have 2.5M sales for SO2 and MS haven't funded it because of reasons? We know they have funded games with less change of sales. So nope I'm not ready to push the 1.16M to 3M to pretend it have 2.5M sales potential being ignored.

I don't see how that is padding. There have been indie devs that have announced that their games got 500k+ downloads on Games With Gold, it's reasonable to expect that a AAA exclusive like Sunset Overdrive on Games With Gold would get at least 800k downloads, honestly probably more than that. As for Gamepass, Sunset has been on the service for over a year now, and MS literally paid for a commercial to advertise the fact that Sunset was on Gamepass, I think 400k additional players in that amount of time is a lowball estimate honestly. MS definitely takes Gamepass players into consideration when they are determining rather or not a release was successful, it's why they now release player counts instead of sales for their exclusives these days. 

We don't know why they haven't funded it yet, we don't even know for a fact that it hasn't been funded yet, as MS could have funded it sometime after Xbox was given a larger budget last year. Maybe they were waiting for Insomniac to finish Spiderman because they wanted Insomniac's A team to develop it instead of their B team? Maybe they were waiting for next-gen because they want it to have more of an impact? What we do know for sure is that MS paid for Sunset Overdrive commercials in 2017, 3 years after the game released, to advertise that it was on Gamepass. We also know that a PC version was rated by the Korean rating board back in May 2018, suggesting that MS plans to release it on PC in the near future. If you ask me those are both positive signs that MS has plans for the franchise in the future. 

Insomniac declared they aren't working on the sequel, so how is that funded? They can't publically lie. If he can't say yes to a question they would avoid answering or giving those can't comment on the subject.

I have no issue believing 3M played SO, but doing the padding to 3M to then claim at least 75% of them want a sequel based on nothing making the sequel sell 2.5M when the original sold basically half of that is ludicrous.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."