| superchunk said: I was asked about my reasoning and I attempted to provide that through high-level assertion of my own studies as well as broad answers to generalize my thoughts on God. |
How can you study something that doesn't have evidence to exist? Counter productive, no?
And that is why we are picking apart your position.
| superchunk said: As an example, I stated above that most stories have some sort of basis in truth. |
And we provided plenty of examples that don't have truth to them.
| superchunk said: I highlighted that Noah's flood story is found in a large number of civilizations and religious cultures which suggests that it has to contain some level of truth. Does that equate to a world-wide flood where a guy fit every living thing in a single boat? No, of course not. But it could mean some regionally catastrophic flood where a guy had a boat that saved a lot of life (people or farms, etc). |
There was never a world-wide flood. - That is the evidence we have, at-least you recognize that.
The fact that the theistic narrative has taken that myth and ran with it, is very telling though... And doesn't do religion any favors.
| superchunk said: He could of claimed later that spiritual guidance drove his actions, etc and that over time blew up to the many variations we have now. |
How do we know he had spiritual guidance that drove his actions?
| superchunk said: I also answered a direct extreme question related to believing in dragons and I said, yes they did obviously exist as Dinosaurs. I specifically called out that people misinterpreted them to form the dragon theme. The retort I get is if dinos breathed fire, etc. WTF, did you not read what I wrote or were you too busy trying to win your extremist ideological fantasy bowl that you jump to further extreme commentary? Of course, the fire, etc of dragons is part of the misrepresentation and fantasy that was developed by folks who built stories from Dinosaur bones. Same with your other mythical creatures, many have real roots. Beasts similar to horses had a single horn and thus unicorns. People are born who grow to extraordinary sizes, thus giants. Sailors have always seen weird shit due to light refraction, etc and thus mermaids, loch ness, etc. |
What you are essentially saying is that we shouldn't be taking religion seriously because none of the claims will be accurate.
Good to know.
| superchunk said: Back to the concept of God. The question was "do you believe and why". Not "prove to me why I'm wrong bitch". |
Nope. You get both if you want to push your position.
| superchunk said: I'd suggest that it doesn't hurt to take one hour on a Sunday and just pop in on your local congregation. You may like it or not, but its no risk and very little investment. |
I went to Church for years.
The amount of horrific incidents I have seen daily... If there was hypothetically a God... Then that God is a cruel, disgusting monster that isn't worthy of worpship anyway.
| superchunk said: The root of my point is that stories have a nugget of truth much of the time. |
Or perhaps it's just coincidence, you are drawing false lines between the two?
| superchunk said: Yet, even today you have people who have stories of dying (proven medical records of being considered dead for x time) and seeing their body, others, things that happened while they were clearly dead. |
There are logical reasons for this.
The body is inundated with a ton of chemicals/hormones, organs are relaxed as the body isn't controlling everything in the event of death.
So of course some funky shit is going to go down.
Doesn't mean God exists.
| superchunk said: hese stories are not limited to 1 religious group or civilization either. I agree my usage of miracle is probably a poor word choice and inexplicable is better as I was referring mostly to medical healing, etc as there is a lot of specific data and evidence from qualified professionals to take into consideration. |
And? Religion is mostly used by those who use it to explain the unexplainable.
| superchunk said: Matter doesn't vanish, it transforms. |
Not entirely accurate.
Whilst the law of conservation does exist... I highly suggest you look into what the Hadron Collider is achieving or rather... Has already achieved.
| superchunk said: To me, existence is finite and interconnected at a level we cannot comprehend or measure, yet. |
Doesn't mean God exists.
| superchunk said: I theorize that that interconnection is governed by itself through a combination of layers of universal, natural laws, as well as chaos. |
Chaos is a natural law.
| superchunk said: This interconnection has a some form of self-awareness and can influence itself (all of use and everything) at some level. |
Evidence?
| superchunk said: I'm confident that if we as a species can avoid the pitfalls of extinction (self-caused or chaos induced), then we will get to a point of being able to understand, commune, and manipulate this universal interconnection. |
Bold claims.
| superchunk said: My view as this interconnection is what we'd agree to as God or IMO, the very basis of existence is God because God is Existence. Everything is part of God. |
Nope.
If you are going to make an assertion that everything is a part of God... Then you need evidence.
You know that it is okay to say "I don't know?" when you don't understand something? You don't have to automagically chalk it up to "God did it"?
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