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Replicant on 18 September 2018
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Shadow1980 said:
Replicant said:

Beautiful. Glad to see PS4+XBO outperforming their predecessors.

Thank you for all of these!

Well, outperforming them for now. As mentioned, the PS4+XBO surplus versus PS3+360 sales will start to shrink substantially over the next couple of years, and I think combined PS4+XBO sales will end somewhere close to, and maybe slightly ahead of, combined PS3+360 sales. But finishing ahead of combined PS2+Xbox sales is a surefire thing as this point, as at this point the OXbox was dead, and the PS2, though still going strong at this point in its life, wasn't doing as well alone as the PS4 & XBO are doing together now.

Yup, "for now" of course. Thanks again.

 

Zekkyou said:

Shadow1980 said: 

Gen 7 was ludicrously over-inflated. Nintendo far exceeded everyone's expectations thanks to the Wii and DS being runaway successes, and Sony surprised everyone by making the first (and only) successful handheld that wasn't a Nintendo system.

On the home console side, as I mentioned in a previous post all of the gen-over-gen losses have been on Nintendo's side thanks to the Wii U's failure. The Switch is making up for that, but the Switch is not and never was going to enjoy the same level of success as the Wii. Meanwhile, conventional consoles, as represented by PlayStation & Xbox, has remained an incredibly stable market. Combined PS4+XBO sales in the U.S. have stayed at over 9 million per year every year so far (excluding 2013 for obvious reasons), something their predecessors couldn't pull off.

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I appreciate the in-depth reply, but I don't think my comment really warrants it. My original comment to Miyamotoo was just a mild observation, not an in-depth analysis and argument. I'm aware of why the 7th gen saw such growth, why it subsequently lost most of it (anyone whose been a member here for more than a few years is likley to be well versed on both topics), and why the PS4 has ultimately been unremarkable in NA. The end result is still unremarkable though, and within the narrow context that my comment was aimed at, I stand by what I said. While the PS4 and X1 have remained stable, they've done so in what i'd personally consider a much easier market.

You're one of my favorite posters on this site. Your comments are always sound and logical. That's why I'm interested to know your reasoning behind bolded.

Isn't competition bigger than ever for consoles? With the growing popularity of F2P gaming on mobile devices as well as the growing popularity of F2P and Esports on PC? It seems like a large part of the new generation enjoys gaming on other platforms than consoles.