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thismeintiel on 16 September 2018
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Mr.Playstation said:
KBG29 said:

PlayStation has finally drove me away. 

For the last 1 1/2 they have completely abandoned PS4. They have stopped supporting any of their services (outside of PlayStation Vue), PSN is down more and more every month, and the OS is getting worse and worse. What the hell are we paying for with PS+?

I've literally experienced none of these :/. 

Yea, that seems a lot like flamebait.  I mean, where has this increase in PSN being down happening?  Cause I sure as hell haven't seen any reports of it.  Maybe his internet just isn't good?  And the OS has been about the same, with some small improvements here or there.  Is his system overheating or something, causing it to run slow?  And as others have mentioned, I've heard that the XBO OS is more bloated and takes longer to do some things.

shikamaru317 said:

You're definitely right about PS4 OS, they have left it by the wayside. The latest numbered update, 6.0, only had stability improvements, no new features at all. The latest OS update I got on my XB1 added the new avatar system. And we can't forget all of the features that XB1's OS has already that PS4 lacks, achievement tracker, playtime tracker, etc. 

I also agree that Gamepass is a ridiculously good value compared to Sony's comparable streaming service, not only does it cost less, it offers local games instead of laggy cloud games, and it has all 1st party games day 1.

It definitely feels like Sony is getting lazy and overconfident again, just like they did when they let PS2's success go to their head. I worry that they are going to pull a PS3 again when they announce PS5, no crossplay, no backwards compatibility, poor price/performance ratio, a cocky attitude...

@ bold

I'm sure you guys are hoping for that, since that is most likely the only way Xbox returns to the heights of the 360, but it ain't happening.  Not sure how a company gets lazy, yet continues to churn out great exclusives for their system, as well as continue to work with 3rd parties for other exclusives, which helps them sell more than twice their closest competition.  Probably close to 3 times by the time the gen is over. 

No crossplay?  You realize Sony is the one of the first to allow crossplay with PC and mobile, right?  I doubt that will change next gen.  Sure, it probably won't be crossplay with XB2 or Switch, but that won't hurt them at all.

As far as B/C goes, the PS3 was B/C with both the previous systems at launch.  In this regard, I hope they do pull a PS3.  We already have a line in their report for IR Day talking about steps to mitigate the impact of the new gen, obviously talking about PS4 B/C, as well as a patent that points to it.  Earlier we had one exec saying something along the lines that they need to look closer at the PS Store and how the next HW takes full advantage of it.  My take is they are looking at a way so that the PS5 can play every game on the Store.

As for price, not sure why you think Sony will be the more expensive one.  Seems Sony has been sticking with $399 this whole gen for new HW, including HW that outperforms the competition, while MS has been sticking with $499.  My guess is next gen, MS will stick with $499, or they will lower the price to better match Sony's.  And given that the PS5 is using a Zen CPU and a Navi GPU, I doubt performance will be an issue.

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 16 September 2018