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JWeinCom said:
Peh said:

By your definition I am not allowed to say that I am "not a theist" even if I am not considering myself a theist. Is that correct?

Also, if you define "not a theist" as something as literally everything that doesn't fit the definition of a theist, then this would include an atheist. Am I correct?

Your definition of atheism would exclude people who  are  even being presented with evidence still wouldn't believe in one due to other reasons. For example, god being a mass murderer. Is that correct?

 

I don't want to sound pendantic, but let's get to the bottom of it.

By my definition, atheist is a subset of the group "not a theist".  Not only would you be allowed to say you are not a theist, but every atheist would by definition also be not a theist.  You could accurately use either term if you wanted.  

Think of it like rectangles and squares.  All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.  All atheists are "not a theist" but not all "not a theists" are atheists.


I didn't use the term believe in, because that can have two different meanings.  That's why I specified believes in the existence of.  A person who accepts that some god exists, but would choose not to follow him or worship him would still be a theist.  

Ok, i see where you are coming from. You want to use "not a theist" as an umbrella term.

 

Well, it can work.



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