| Jumpin said: I believe in the god Athein, he my believes in natural things like science, technology, heterosexuality, flat earth (come on! you expect me to believe that your attracted to the center of a giant sphere rather than down?), that evolution and climate science are a government scam to take away our guns and jobs, and that masturbation is the reason for failure #NoJack #NoFlap - because not pounding off will make you feel great and sacred. As worshippers of Athein the Great, our religion of Atheism is one of the fastest growing in the world, Atheists are popping up all over the UK, and our brains are much more bigger than the brains of other people who don’t believe in science like we do. And don’t say I am not an expert in science or I claim No True Scotsman fallacy. |
Amusing... But not exactly a constructive addition to the thread.
Shaqazooloo0 said:
??? I mean... I don't think it's gonna happen, but I think it's a possibility. I'm honestly not sure why you phrased it as if I'm crazy for thinking we could discover new things...? |
I could have probably phrased it a little better.
But with 1.5~ Billion Muslims, 2.10~ Billion Christians, 15~ millions Jewish today looking for an answer to whether their Middle-Eastern, Abrahamic God exists... And we have nothing. Nada. Nil. Zilch.
That's not to say that their God couldn't exist... It's just, how many more millennia are we going to allow them to find an answer whilst a large portion of Theists deny basic scientific facts like Evolution, Big Bang, Natural Selection and so on?
Zoombael said:
Everybody is born a blank. Any kind of "indoctrination" comes afterwards. That includes Atheism. |
Now you are almost catching on.
However... Atheism isn't a belief, it is the default position.
It's neither a belief nor disbelief in God.
| Zoombael said: Science doesn't exclude god. I'm not sure how it is suppose to do that. We can't detect if there is or isnt life on the other side of the Milkyway, but capable of detecting something that supposedly lies beyond our perception? |
Science doesn't include God either.
Whether there is life on other planets neither proves or disproves that a God exists.
| Shaqazooloo0 said: If we had proof that God exists, wouldn't we then have to prove that the afterlife exists as well or do atheist feel like God existing would justify the belief of an afterlife? I'm genuinely asking here. Im asking Because I get the impression that it's the later which I find kind of weird... |
Each claim needs to be scrutinized on it's own individual merits and judged accordingly.
For example, there are claims in the Bible which are actually accurate... And many many many claims which come into conflict with science, especially allot of claims found in Genesis/Old Testament.
Thus... Just because one claim is true/false doesn't mean the next claim is true/false.
| WolfpackN64 said: So you're only religious when in prayer? I was born a Catholic and that's that. None of this "born atheïst" BS. |
Clearly I was being satirical... Which seems to have eluded you.
| WolfpackN64 said: You conflate rationality with empiricism. David Hume is dead, live with it. |
False.
I am not asking for you to walk on water, just provide evidence that your God exists... And then the debate is over, can't be that overtly difficult, right?
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