| Dota2Gamer said: I have not yet found a convincing counter-argument against the Moral Argument as a proof of God's existence. Granted, I admit I have my own bias since I'm a Christian. We have our own biases anyway but I'm open to hear some different opinions. How would Atheists in this forum counter the moral argument. And please, don't misrepresent the moral argument. I'm not saying that Atheists can not be moral. anyway, below is the argument: |
The quest for an objective morality is interesting. I don't know whether I could convince you -- or anyone -- of my own code of morality, but I'll share that the Christian God (for instance) does not measure up to it. He is vain and petty and blood-thirsty. If he existed, he would be regarded more a devil than a god. A tormentor of men, not a savior.
So if objective morality does exist, and if my own morals reflect that objective morality (which is itself a whole can of worms), then I disagree that the existence of a god (here if we are supposing the Christian God) has anything to do with that objective morality.
But I disagree that men get their morality from gods in any event, whether those gods are supposed to exist or not. Men did not learn that murder was wrong from some received stone tablet; we learned it was wrong through observation over time ("wrong" here meaning antithetical to human life, pleasure, and happiness -- which comprise our source of value) and when it came time to mythologize, we put words like that in the mouths of our supposed ancestral lawgivers. We gave morality (such as he has any) to God, not the other way around.
