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JWeinCom on 04 September 2018
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Shaqazooloo0 said:
JWeinCom said:

Well, first off I find it interesting.  Second of all, I'm hoping that someone, not necessarily the person in the conversation, will read what was said, and have a good honest think about it.  Lastly, if theists do have a good justified reason for belief in god, I'd like to be made aware of it.  I'm doubtful this will occur (mainly because I think if there's a good reason I'd have heard it by now), but I don't really fancy the idea of death.  If someone could actually give me a good reason to expect eternal life, I'd be down.

Yeah, you've made a lot of good posts. So I think you're okay. I find these discussions interesting too. I don't participate in them, I'd rather just see what people have to say gain new perspective and think about what's being said, maybe learn a little somethin' somethin'... Also I'm not smart enough to add anything of value...

I was more referring to the back and forth at this point being kind of pointless.

Peh said:

What? Where did it got life threateningly toxic?

Just reading through the past few pages was kind of frustrating to me. Maybe it isn't as toxic as I said, but at this point it's just a dog pile imo and it's annoying to read. Some of these posts from both sides seem really condescending for no reason to me. It won't end, and the discussion you guys keep coming back to won't be resolved imo. Also, I don't really think anybodies been adding anything to this for quite a few posts now. 

Well, a lot of topics wind up like that on this site (and many others I assume).  I believe about every NPD thread for the past year or so has devolved into people arguing with quick rick about Switch sales.  Just the way these things go.  But in this case, it doesn't really bother me so much.  It's a bit hard to explain the difference, but I think with an NPD thread for instance, there are a lot of people who would like to discuss a lot of things and are prevented from doing so.  In this topic there's really only one thing to discuss, and I don't think there's a whole lot of people who really want to discuss this that can't.  I feel I didn't explain that well, but hopefully you get what I mean.

As for the dogpiling... I kind of get what you're saying, but it's sort of human nature.  When people feel like they're saying something worthwhile and they're being ignored, they tend to repeat it and louder.  So like with what's been going on the last few pages, about burden of proof... This is something that is really well established and should be obvious.  When it's explained clearly and repeatedly denied, people get frustrated.  I'm guessing the other side feels the same.