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Shaqazooloo0 said:
JWeinCom said:

Well, first off I find it interesting.  Second of all, I'm hoping that someone, not necessarily the person in the conversation, will read what was said, and have a good honest think about it.  Lastly, if theists do have a good justified reason for belief in god, I'd like to be made aware of it.  I'm doubtful this will occur (mainly because I think if there's a good reason I'd have heard it by now), but I don't really fancy the idea of death.  If someone could actually give me a good reason to expect eternal life, I'd be down.

Yeah, you've made a lot of good posts. So I think you're okay. I find these discussions interesting too. I don't participate in them, I'd rather just see what people have to say gain new perspective and think about what's being said, maybe learn a little somethin' somethin'... Also I'm not smart enough to add anything of value...

I was more referring to the back and forth at this point being kind of pointless.

Peh said:

What? Where did it got life threateningly toxic?

Just reading through the past few pages was kind of frustrating to me. Maybe it isn't as toxic as I said, but at this point it's just a dog pile imo and it's annoying to read. Some of these posts from both sides seem really condescending for no reason to me. It won't end, and the discussion you guys keep coming back to won't be resolved imo. Also, I don't really think anybodies been adding anything to this for quite a few posts now. 

Debates can get heated and personally I am not a fan of it. I am more interested in the knowledge itself and how good it can stand against criticism. Thus, I call out a logical fallacy when I see one. A lot of people try to win an argument at any point. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong aslong as they win over the crowd. I am not interested in those things. I've seen a lot of debates over the years and know most of the fallacious arguments being used. I have a high despise for apologists. They are dishonest people in my eyes. Ken Ham and Ray Comfort are a good example. They never learn and use the same argument at its core over and over again. 

If I am wrong, and probably am, then just point that out, because it can happen that I don't see it at first.



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