Do you believe in God? Why/Why not?

[Snoopy]

SpokenTruth said:

Snoopy said:

I'm not religious (agnostic), but I do believe in God. If I asked someone in the scientific community if I should play the lottery, they will tell me that would be a stupid move. However, the way the universe is created according to some scientific theories that will be like playing the lottery at least a million times over and winning it all in a row. It's crazy that some people think that everything came from nothing. In order for something to be created, it either has to be 1. The object has the potential to be something such as water turning into ice or 2.Needs to be created by something or someone.

The lottery angle is not hard to grasp.  Imagine the odds were 1 in 1 million.  And you played all 1 million combinations.  You would absolutely win.  There are 200 billion stars in our galaxy alone and over 2 trillion galaxies just in our observable universe.  Many of those 4,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars have planets.  I'd take that bet that one of them could create and sustain life.

Oh, and because that is just our observable universe, it totally ignores the whole universe.  That figure would go up exponentially greater by a factor we don't even have a number for.  The numbers get so huge that it becomes almost impossible for life NOT to have established itself.  The chemical and physical circumstances required were practically guaranteed to happen at some point during the past 13.8 billion years across the near infinite number of planets.

By the way, there is ice all over the universe.  It's not exactly rare.  In fact, alien life is more likely to be found on an icy planet than one like Earth.

First of all, in order for there to be life like we have, you have to have a planet with resources, not just stars. Bringing up stars is completely pointless. It's like saying we have a billion men on an island by themselves and expecting a baby to be born through natural means.  A lot more is in play then just stars, to say the least.

I believe there are aliens obviously, however in order for there to be life a lot of things have to happen. Even if all the material is there, doesn't mean something will be created by itself. It's also hard to imagine to have all the things we got by chance just cause one reaction occurring after another and nothing going wrong. Also, your lottery interpretation is way off. The odds are more like a 1 in a hundred trillion. Each solar system is a separate lottery competition and that's probably an understatement.

Last edited by Snoopy - on 04 September 2018