Playstation hits 80m+ monthly active users!

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potato_hamster said:

KBG29 said:

Did not know the buttons related to Blu-ray. Thank you for informing me.

According to DisplaySpecifications: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/2c7061a

The Z9D only has 2GB of RAM, and 16GB of built in storage. It runs a MediaTek SOC. 

I know they have moved in the opposite direct, but it does not mean it is good business. Sales dropped from 14 Million TVs to 12 Million TVs the year they went from their OS to Android. They are expecting sales to drop to 11 Million this year. 

The problem with their old OS, just like Microsoft had with Windows Phone, is that it was yet another seperate platform developers had to support. By unifiing their devices behind a single OS, they would reduce redundency and cost  of running multiple different platforms. They would also offer a larger unified userbase, that developers can build one app for, that works across all Sony products. By having unified  controls across all of their devices, it would yet again simplify things for developers.

By running their own OS, and having users signed into an SIE account instead of a Google Account, they are automatically making more with their consumer using their Store. With close integration to PlayStation Vue, PlayStation Video, and PlayStation Now they would be able to obtain more subscriptions and sales through those services yet again increase revenue and profits. 

As far as hardware costs go, it is not like the PlayStation OS is power hungry. It actually uses 3GB of RAM, it ran on (2) 1.6GHz Jaguar cores at launch, but was reduced to (1) core in 2015. 

https://www.dualshockers.com/naughty-dog-explains-ps4s-cpu-memory-and-more-in-detail-and-how-they-can-make-them-run-really-fast/

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/218659-sony-unlocks-the-ps4s-seventh-cpu-core-but-will-games-benefit

So Sony does not even need a chip the size and cost of the PS4 Slim APU to have the OS on their TVs. Honestly, I think the best course of action would be to make the switch to their own OS when they make the move to Ryzen based soulutions. The same chip could be used for a new PS Handheld and their TVs helping reduce cost even further.

It's pretty obvious that those buttons on blu-ray remotes weren't a Sony standard. Perhaps you should actually look at another brand when considering your next electronics purchase.

So 2 GB of ram and a nothingburger of storage. I guess it's not running PS4's OS, is it? Do you know how much RAM Android 7.1 requires? 512 MB. It should have 2GB to run top-end features properly. Still it looks like you're going to have to up those specs to run PS4's OS, are you not? Do you honestly think the sales drop has anything to do with not putting PS4's OS on televisions? Need I remind you that the PS4's OS has far less app support than the old Sony TV OS had which again is far less than android TV. Never mind all of the other built in features that televisions are expected to have that PS4s don't that Sony would have to develop. It's hard to see Android TV as being the problem there. Perhaps it's the fact that televisions are getting cheaper and cheaper to make but Sony's prices tend to stay the same.

The problem with their old OS wasn't that it was yet another platform to develop apps for vs iOS and Android, as I've already stated, there was far better app support for Sony's old TV OS than the PS4 ever has had and likely ever will have. Besides, how does swapping out Android OS on Sony phones with PS4's OS solve that problem. Developers would still have to support iOS/Android/PS4OS. You're not making developers support less operating systems, you're just swapping out the third OS they'd have to develop for. And no, it wouldn't simplify things for developers. Example: All phone apps would have to be able to run on a PS4, would they not?  Otherwise, it wouldn't be unified, would it? How many phone OSs work natively with PS4 controllers? How many phone OSs have to support both devices that do have touchscreens and ones that do not? Developing for a PS4 OS that operates on devices with dramatically different inputs and outputs makes development more complicated, and a bigger pain in the ass. Not less.

Also, you need to demonstrate that Sony's profits off of sharing revenue with Google off of running their OS would be less than they would get forcing users to buy in on a completely new operating system, and thus forcing users to abandon their investment in that ecosystem already, for a PS4 OS with a handful of apps, which would need to have dozens of apps that are considered required for many people ready to go on launch. I mean really, it's sweet how you think this is even remotely reasonable.

You know for as long as you've been pitching this, you've still never explained why Sony would succeed where Microsoft clearly failed. It must be Microsoft's clear lack of experience developing operating systems.

Would just like to point out that Android OS supporting hundreds of different equipment at the same time will be less optimized than a Sony OS designed for a dozen different devices at a time (TVs, phones and consoles) and sure they could even make 3 suits of OS on the same base and reduce even more the differences and have less issues.

When we look at iOS versus Android and the phones they support the HW in the apple side is a lot weaker but perform a lot better and a good part of it have to do with how much better optimized the OS is.