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twintail said:
SuperNova said:
Wait, crossplay with iOS is a-ok, but letting xbox, let alone Nintendo, in on the fun would just sully the experience?
Playstation is settin themselves up for a bg fall next gen if they continue on with this arrogance.

MS and Switch are their direct competitors, iOS/ Android/ PC are not. At least that appears to be the logic atm. And fair enough... Sony want more ppl in their ecosystem. Mobile and PC is not really any threat to that because of how ubiquitous they are. For what it is worth, Sony had cross platform play back on the PS2 with PC, and that grew on PS3 and even more so on PS4. 

I get the meta reason behind their decision. But that's not what he said. What he said is that opening fortnight crossplay would open PS up to an inferior experience, when in reality the experience on Xbox is identical or better depending wich system the player has and the Switch one is definitely way superior to the iOS one, wich is already cross-compatible with PS4.

I was just calling him out on his bullshitting. If he had straight up said:'We've made this anti-consumer decision to lock as many customers into our eco-system as possible', I'd still have a bit of a problem with the underlying mentality, but not the statement itself. As is it's just blatantly false and unneccessarily arrogant.

Bofferbrauer2 said:
SuperNova said:
Wait, crossplay with iOS is a-ok, but letting xbox, let alone Nintendo, in on the fun would just sully the experience?
Playstation is settin themselves up for a bg fall next gen if they continue on with this arrogance.

The lack of crossplay won't really hurt the PS4 much anymore. But the PS5 could get a rocky start, especially if the Xbox next is much more competitive compared to what the One was to the PS4. If Microsoft plays it's cards right and brings a powerful, well supported Xbox from the get-go next gen, then the less consumer-friendly policies of Sony will bite them in their ass, just like it did to the Xbox this gen. Doubly so if the Switch is still beasting by then.

Yeah, it's not going to hurt the PS4 at this point. I was thinking more in terms of what seems to be their general mindset right now. They are making increasingly anti-consumer decisions, when at the start of the gen their whole success leaned on the fact that they were not trying to lock peoples games into an always online eco-system. It makes me a little worried about the kind of decisions they are going to make with their next system.

Xbox meanwhile has been impressive on the hardwareside as well as with enhanced backwards compatibility, actively pushing crossplay and mods, the game pass and the play anywhere initiative. They have been really putting in the legwork and if they don't butcher their next system unveil, like they did with the Xbone they have decent chance to snatch the US right out under Sonys ass.

What Nintendo does in all this is anyones guess, but right now they are profiting off Xboxes underdog position and their own unique hardware design.

Last edited by SuperNova - on 03 September 2018