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Shiken said:
pokoko said:

He's not exactly right but he's not exactly wrong, either.

Let's imagine a Playstation platform without an IP more than two generations old.  Could they pull it off?  Yeah, probably.  

On the other hand, let's imagine a Nintendo platform without an IP more than two generations old.  Could they pull it off?  In terms of quality, probably.  In terms of sales, I have my doubts.  

What I find funny is that you said in your previous reply is that Nintendo would be able to make games of quality, but you question if they would sell without being known IPs in your first reply.  Then you go on to say that Sony would be fine without known IPs because of their quality...

 

So what is the difference?  It seems to me that their is bias in your statement as the only argument you have is pretty much that Playstation is Playstation and Nintendo is Nintendo.  You literally contradicted your own point.

pokoko said:

"They did it once, they can do it again," is not a fact.  If it were a fact, then the same sports teams would win every year, Sony could replicate the success of the Walkman at their leisure, Atari would be running the gaming industry, and we'd have far fewer developers go out of business.  That's as much an assumption as anything else, especially considering the gaming environment is much different now.

Except that you forget that the Splatoon IP is a huge hit, Xenoblade continues to gain traction, and ARMs was far more successful than many like to give it credit for.  They have already proven they can do it.

 

You do not think that they could not make a similar game to Mario or Zelda in a different setting with a unique plot and cast while having it sell?  If Mario and Zelda did not exist, other new IPs of similar style would take their place. Quality sells games, all they have to do is show that quality.  Otherwise Horizon Zero Dawn would have flopped.

 

To believe anything else is to fool yourself into believing what you want to believe, rather than what is true.

Hold on a second.  If you're not going to get what I said right then don't paraphrase me at all.  

The argument is pretty simple.  Playstation does not lean as heavily on past IP as Xbox and Nintendo.  This is an observable pattern of behavior and they've proven to be successful at it.  Nintendo, on the other hand, builds and maintains their oldest IP indefinitely.  That is also an observable pattern of behavior.

Now, you're seriously telling me that if Nintendo dropped Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Kirby, and Pokemon, it wouldn't have an impact on their brand?  That it wouldn't affect sales?

I think the one trying to fool themselves into believing what they want to believe is you.