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Dota2Gamer said:

 

Cyran said:

My issue with this argument always been in one hand you say that every thing need to be created but then you assume a god who was not created. 

I did not assume. It was already given as stated in the bible Psalm 90:2, "Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God."

Now you may be thinking, "wait a moment, that's a lousy excuse." You can take it however you like it but assuming Einstein's theory that time is relative to matter, and Bigbang is the beginning of all matter, therefore, time did not exist before Bigbang. Therefore, without Faith into the equation, the bible quote itself makes ore sense.

What I hear when someone uses the bible of proof of god is god exist because the bible says so and the bible true because god says so.  Circular reasoning does not work for me.  If that works for you am not going to debate further since it will just go in circles.