Cyran said:
My issue with this argument always been in one hand you say that every thing need to be created but then you assume a god who was not created. |
I did not assume. It was already given as stated in the bible Psalm 90:2, "Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God."
Now you may be thinking, "wait a moment, that's a lousy excuse." You can take it however you like it but assuming Einstein's theory that time is relative to matter, and Bigbang is the beginning of all matter, therefore, time did not exist before Bigbang. Therefore, without Faith into the equation, the bible quote itself makes more sense.
Cyran said:
I never understood how picking a very complex being that knows everything and capable of creating something from nothing (God) as the starting point makes more sense then picking the laws of physics and some simple matter as the starting point. One seem so much more simple to me. |
This may sound cheesy to you but it makes sense if you think about it. The pursuit of knowledge without God is a never ending futile exercise as stated in Ecclesiastes 1:17-18, "then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom . . . but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind. For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief"
