| Dota2Gamer said: I'm a Christian, proud to be and I always appreciate seeing questions like this. I always look forward in engaging with polite discussions with Atheists. Debate implies that I won't accept accept open ideas. I prefer the term discussion or polite disagreement. Actually, believing in God is what makes the most sense. Since, it has been established in the second law of thermodynamics that something cannot be created out of nothing. For the premise of the law of thermodynamics to be true, one must accept that something has been created. You may bring up the Big Bang or the concept of the initial singularity of all matter and energy, but a question will still arise, what caused the Big Bang, where did this singularity came from. Whether you are an Atheist or a Christian, if you are honest with yourself, at the current state of Science, we still don't know anything. We will know it when we know it. But to reject the concept of a God when Science has not even proved or disproved His existence is a little bit irrational. At least Christians have their Faith as a basis, what do those Atheists have to back their rejection? An incomplete materialistic evidence that answers nothing? Granted, it makes sense for Atheists to reject God if they make presumptions or define God on finite Humanistic knowledge. I can define God as a flying spaghetti monster so I can reject it and that's it. But it will be dishonest of me to do so since I am only misrepresenting bible's arguments to justify my rejection of my own concept of a Creator. Then, why would I suppose that this creator can only exist in the finite universe given that He is supposed to be infinite and not bound by time? As the String Theory suggests, a person living in a 2d universe cannot decipher the existence of a person living in a 3d universe, we humans, who are living in a 3d universe cannot decipher people from 4d universe assuming that there is a a 4d universe. |
Well I also like debating this sort of thing, so at least we'll start on common grounds.
First off, I think you confused the second and first laws of thermodynamics. Not a big deal, but you may want to be more careful if you're invoking that. You're also slightly messing up the wording. The law of conservation of energy (first law of thermodynamics) says that energy cannot be created or destroyed. It has nothing to do with creating from nothing. It just can't be created period within a closed system. So, actually, if someone accepts that something has been created (from within a system) that would actually defy and invalidate the first law of thermodynamics.
Secondly, you've said atheists reject god, and this is not true. SOME atheists reject god, but that's not a requirement. Most, like me, would simply say, I don't believe it until I have evidence. Which is, if you've acknowledged its existence has not been proven or disproven, the only rational position one can take. You also say you have faith to back you up, but that's kind of weird to me. How do you define faith, and why is it good support for your beliefs?
Of course, if you believe in the Christian god, and you believe the Bible is both accurate and literal, I would say I do actually reject that god.
