JWeinCom said:
WolfpackN64 said:
I did demonstrate them. People asked to elaborate them and I explained further. I see no problem here.
People asked me to show them why a Christian God would follow from the argument, which is outside the scope of the cosmological argument, so I bring them back to revelation (every case of which can be justified or not, usually determined by external authority).
And of course everyone who actually uses the cosmological argument and rational theology believes in revelation. The argument is often used because people ask further justification for the existance of God.
I could go even deeper into the cosmological argument to show why it would end in monotheism, but a singular argument for the existance of a Christian God doesn't exist. That would require a whole coherentist build up of arguments leading into an entire worldview, at which point I'd be writing a book, not posting in a thread on a video game forum.
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You didn't elaborate further. When someone asked you to demonstrate a premise, you basically just replied with some form of "god is necessary" which is the conclusion of your argument. When asked to justify why God should be invoked in your argument you point to revelation... to believe in which requires you to believe in god.
So basically, if you believe in god, god exists... which is a meaningless argument.
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People asked me the same question five times over. I elaborated as much as I could but I can't help it if people simply fail to understand the argument and reply with counterarguments that miss the point I was trying to make in the first place.
And no, You saw me write down this argument over and over so refrain from making simplistic statements because I'm kind of losing my patience here.