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JWeinCom said:
WolfpackN64 said:

While the designer argument is dubious, your retort is quite weak as well. Who designed God? If God is a necessary being at the cradle of the universe, the only awnser is that he always was. For when he wasn't he couldn't and if he is, he can't not be.

If you acknowledge that complex things (like god) can exist without a creator, you can no longer argue that cells need a creator because they are complex.

If you try to get out of this problem by saying that god is the only thing that didn't need to be created, then that is a logical fallacy called special pleading.  You can't just say "this thing is the one exception to the rule", unless you can give a valid justification to the rule.  

Either complex things always need to be designed, or they don't.  You can't have it both ways.

Yes you can, that's why you have the division between necessary and contingent beings.