WolfpackN64 said:
Alara317 said:
Then what created God? If a cell's inner mechanisms are so beyond you that you can only fathom it being created by a higher being, then what created God? Where did God come from? What designed God? Who could possibly be so more advanced that it created the thing that created the thing that baffles you?
Honestly, it's this sort of logic that makes me double down on my stance. This sort of 'it's complicated and it confuses me, therefore it must be god' ideal that is at the crux of everything wrong with every pro-god argument.
In the end, it just boils down to "I do not know, therefore God acts as a metaphor for that which is beyond my understanding". Has been that way since day one and will continue to be that was as long as there are answers we do not yet know.
And yes, I know you didn't say you 'don't understand' how the cell works, but the fact that a divine creator is the only way you can fathom such things occurring does show a form of ignorance that fits the same narrative.
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While the designer argument is dubious, your retort is quite weak as well. Who designed God? If God is a necessary being at the cradle of the universe, the only awnser is that he always was. For when he wasn't he couldn't and if he is, he can't not be.
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If you acknowledge that complex things (like god) can exist without a creator, you can no longer argue that cells need a creator because they are complex.
If you try to get out of this problem by saying that god is the only thing that didn't need to be created, then that is a logical fallacy called special pleading. You can't just say "this thing is the one exception to the rule", unless you can give a valid justification to the rule.
Either complex things always need to be designed, or they don't. You can't have it both ways.
