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Alara317 said:
EnricoPallazzo said:
Yes. The more I understand how a cell, genome, dna works, the more its clear for me that It cannot come to existance by chance. I think it is very clear the universe and life itself had a design. Im a christian by the way.

Then what created God? If a cell's inner mechanisms are so beyond you that you can only fathom it being created by a higher being, then what created God? Where did God come from? What designed God? Who could possibly be so more advanced that it created the thing that created the thing that baffles you? 

Honestly, it's this sort of logic that makes me double down on my stance. This sort of 'it's complicated and it confuses me, therefore it must be god' ideal that is at the crux of everything wrong with every pro-god argument. 

In the end, it just boils down to "I do not know, therefore God acts as a metaphor for that which is beyond my understanding". Has been that way since day one and will continue to be that was as long as there are answers we do not yet know. 

And yes, I know you didn't say you 'don't understand' how the cell works, but the fact that a divine creator is the only way you can fathom such things occurring does show a form of ignorance that fits the same narrative. 

Your answer is exactly why I usually do no enter this type of discussion. I wish I could have the answers for everything in the universe, like what existed before the big bang, how the universe can be infinite, what exists outside of it, where the matter that comprises the WHOLE universe came from and that condensed in a veru very small space before that big bang, or why atheist people are so intolerant sometimes, despite in theory being at the "reason" side of the discussion. And where god came from of course.

But I stand for what I said. The more I understand how the "micro" works in the nature, the more its clear for me it could not have been there by a mere huge sequence of fortunate lucky moves.