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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Peh said:

I wouldn't call it a miracle or luck. It's rather unavoidable. We are certainly not the only planet who managed to grow life on it  Even it if were one planet per galaxy whereas a galaxy has billions of solar systems. And our universe has how many millions or billions of galaxies? Not to mention that we found dozens of planets in our own galaxy which are fit for life.

this is an interesting topic! miracle or luck is always up to one's perception, (1)I don't see how life on other planets can dismiss the existence of an upper intelligence deity in another dimension that caused the big bang and administrated the events that led to life on multiple planets

our knowledge is very limited on the matter, there is definitely life on other planets but does it even go beyond cells? many, many conditional circumstances must be met in order for life to exist, develop organs and evolve, even more when it comes to developing an organism that goes beyond the ''unavoidable'' in a sense (2)that it possess a spirit and free will, one whose actions are not pre-set

(3)Christian scripts support that both animals and human possess a spirit, but free will has only been given to the human by god, the only thing (along with the spirit) that does not recycle, but goes on to exist forever in another dimension, along with its memories

(4)but like I said before, people give to much focus on connecting religion and science, religion is about having a healthy spirit and therefore a better life, if those teachings really make one feel healthy, then there's nothing else to prove

(1) It depends on how you look at it. From one point of view, it shows that life can be created and evolve without the need of a higher deity. Our universe runs by the laws of physics. No higher power has been observed. I personally don't believe in other "dimensions" as in parallel universes or a higher dimension than ours.  

(2) There is no proof of the existence of a spirit nor free will. Science goes in the direction that those don't exist. I also don't believe in spirits nor in free will which the latter I see as being purely illogical. I am on par with Sam Harris on this one.  

(3) I don't believe in Christian scripts. Afaik, the bible doesn't speak about other dimension, since the concept of dimensions wasn't known during that time. If the bible is god's word, like a lot of theists claim, than god also didn't knew about dimensions. Also, heaven is located in the sky, because that was the limit for humanities imagination. 

(4) Cum hoc ergo propter hoc or correlation =/= causation. There is no statistic I am aware of, that a healthy spirit automatically leads to a better life. There are plenty of theists with a strong believe that yet still have to endure the opposite that is a better life. "Better life" is also subjective in what it means. 



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